Why can't it be legal?

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by Autentique, Jun 16, 2004.

  1. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    I don't understand why MJ is illegal, Really I start to think of the reasons.. and I get to none. There are far worst drugs that harm us a lot more than weed and they are legal (tobacco, alcohol) so I don't understand why is it that they don't legalize it.
     
  2. I_Am_A_Robot

    I_Am_A_Robot Member

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    there is this one thread . " i heard marijuana was illegal cuz it couldnt be taxed" it was something like that. that brings up some points how it was to be legal at one point but they had no good plan of how to tax it. because its so easily home grown and stuff. idk , hopefully people will answer this far better than me.

    also ive read marijuana competes with the petrolum industries and oil barons like bush are against it. but im not sure about this. i dont know much about the legal business.
     
  3. EasyRider

    EasyRider Member

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    Hemp could be used to fuel cars etc and because the governmeants are probably controlled by big oil companies they listen to their demands to not legalise it. And also people would just grow shit loads of it.
     
  4. lady_of_the_flowers

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    As much as us stoners like to think that weed is complete harmless, there are risks.

    Maybe not so much physical risks, although there is four times as much tar in a spliff than a cigarette. There are psychological risks, such as depression and phychosis, although I'm not the biggest expert, so maybe someone else could comment on these.

    It's also true what they say about lack of motivation. I often find that I can't be bothered to go out if there isn't any herb. I don't really bother doing homework. Obviously, I'm just speaking about myself, and this in no way reflects the majority of cannabis users, but I have taken the drug to the extremes.

    And you must remember that it is a drug. The goverment won't openly promote the use of mind altering drugs.
    Just because tobacco and alcohol are legal, it doesn't mean it's right. You can't say
    'drink and fags are legal and they're much worse, so why isn't weed?' because, in my honest opinion they shouldn't be legal. Two (or in this case three) wrongs don't make a right.

    I am in favour of decriminalization, like in places like Holland, but I still think it should remain illegal. One theory I have is that if it were legalised, then any idiot could grow, and therefore the quality of weed on the market would drop.

    Also, I don't have a problem buying weed, all I have to do is make a few phone calls and it's sorted. I never think to myself 'Damn, if only weed was legal, then I could go buy some.' Admittadly, there are times when I can't pick up and it's annoying, but hey, you can't have everything. In general though, the system works. And why change something that works?

    To conclude, I do not want cannabis to be completley legalised and available in shops, but I would like possesion and cultivation for personal use to be legal. I think the government should make supply legal. Obviously, people would still buy it, but it would prevent it being sold in shops and being taxed.

    I apologise if part of my post don't make sense, or I'm just waffaling on, but hey...I'm stoned.


    Peace and Love....
     
  5. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

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    Well it has also been proven that use of a water bong can reduce these harmful tars by up 60% I believe it was. Also tobacco is grown with cancer causing agents. http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_health2.shtml

    Yes indeed this is only you. When my mother smoked she felt like cleaning the house instead of watching TV. I decide to write or make music. While this isn't the kind of motivation that most people talk about it is in fact motivation. I've taken pot to extremes as well and at the most I believe I've smoked a total of about 4.5 grams of schwag and 1 gram of dro to myself. I still found that I wanted to do more then the stereotype sit down and veg out.

    Everything is a drug. From asprin to caffine, mind altering all of them. When under the stress of a headache does tylenol not help it? The reason the goverment can't openly endorse these drugs is because of the lies surrounding them for half a century. The goverment promotes "safe" use of alcohol and tobacco.

    Are you a dealer? Cause a lot of dealers feel that way. If any idiot could grow it, so could you and thus you dont have to buy. Ettiquite also applies, generally you smoke a spliff of the bag before purchace.

    Heres why. Because every so often, someone gets busted in an attempt at a skag deal. They don't take in that person, they say the magic words. "Reduced Sentance" and have to make a buy. Then that person gets a "Reduced Sentance." Its standard procedure I know because my friend who dealt almost got busted. A kid was told to buy an oz off him... Lucky for Kyle the kid wouldnt do it.

    You want it legal to buy, sell, and use... But illegal for shops to sell... Now thats just.... no

    Might explain a bit of the logic mate :D
     
  6. APinkBunnyRabbit

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    If it were legal, the quality could improve. Yes, any idiot could grow, but any idiot could also buy high grade weed for like $25/ounce. You could buy blunts filled with weed instead of tobacco for $1, etc.
     
  7. lady_of_the_flowers

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    Don't get me wrong DarkLunacy, I'm completley pro-pot and a dedicated stoner through and through. I was just trying to put foward arguments for the other side.

    But I think you gave very good arguments to all of my points.
     
  8. lady_of_the_flowers

    lady_of_the_flowers Member

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    Oh and lol....yes I am a dealer.
     
  9. Digital Underpants

    Digital Underpants Member

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    Just so's you all know hemp is not weed! It does not contain thc so it would ber great alternative to fuel and it can make paper and clothes. Once upon a time in this country it was illegal not to grow hemp. But now oil baron and Dupont make sure that it don't make a good come back . Mary Jane is it's cuzin and should not be confused with hemp.
     
  10. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    Why do people always complain. Who cares if it's legal just use it. And if you want an answer here's one. Think how many teenagers smoke the reef right now. That number would increase if it was legalized. The government doesn't want that to happen.
     
  11. LuciferSam

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    The government doesn't really care about that, although some people in the government may believe that's an actual worry. At any rate, I doubt that percentage of teens who'd smoke pot only if it were legalized is very big at all. Most people are going to smoke or not smoke based on reasons not related to legality. The difference is that if it's legalized you'll just see that same number of people smoke in public.
     
  12. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    Peace, you've given me an great idea for a pole in young hippies.

    DL, you did us proud.

    Sometimes I think weed can't be legal because it would make me too damn happy.
     
  13. reefer121

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    hey i dunno if ne1 has posted this but here it goes-

    hemp and weed can be used 4 sooo many things is not funny, anything made from wood, plastic or cotton can be made from hemp. the oil industry was starting and so that made plastic from the oil. the big companies wouldnt make ne money if hemp was around because it can do so much stuff so the american government criminalised marijuana which also criminalised hemp without people knowing. other countries followed and then now marijuana is seen by most people as really bad because they dont know about hemp's wonders and even the wonders of marijuana. all because of some rich greedy bussiness men.

    i also heard someting about how the "poor" part of society was using it and something about that- download Leon Chomsky's speech "Marijuana"
    peace

    by the way sorry if u cant understand nething i just said. im tired
     
  14. diktnemele

    diktnemele Member

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    i in all honesty don't want it to be legal. tolerated but illegal, cause if it's not the government will get into it and it'll be the new tabacco
     
  15. EasyRider

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    For 10,000 years man has been smoking it, and laws or not we're gonna carry on.
     
  16. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    why change something that works?

    i don't think it works very well now. the government spends all kind of money on anti marijuana commercials, "educating" us about it in health classes, prosecuting small time pot dealers and kids that are just smoking it, and we aren't very free in this "land of the free."

    some of the reasons why is because it could be used to fuel cars, make clothes, and tons of other shit, but the companies lobbied or still do lobby the government to keep hemp and therefore marijuana illegal.
    also propaganda has convinced most of the people in our government that weed is the devil. maybe someday when our generation or another one is office...

    i think it should be legalized but not fucked around with too much. like the orange juice called simply orange, 100% un-fooled around with. keep weed basically the same; quality, prices, no additives, but legal to use.
     
  17. RoBoWaLkEr

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    "Why do people always complain. Who cares if it's legal just use it. And if you want an answer here's one. Think how many teenagers smoke the reef right now. That number would increase if it was legalized. The government doesn't want that to happen."


    Actually, and someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but hasn't it been shown that if something (ie a substance) is legal, the rates of usage if anything will be lower than where it's illegal? Like germany for instance where the drinking age is something like 13. It's part of their culture, and isn't stigmatized like it is over here, so it's not done to excess and isn't seen as a "cool" or rebelious.
     
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