I got the first of my 2 separate salvia orders today from 2 different places. You won't believe me if I told you the X it was so I won't bother. So either the first site was a rip off or I'm completely immune to salvia. If there's ever a lethal dose of it, what I have should be enough X to put a whale into a coma. Yet I feel nothing. I smoked, and smoked and smoked. Followed all instructions I've read within the past week or so to a T. Nothing. I told you guys and you didn't believe me. I'm the person who can't have visuals. I can have a 10-strip of the best acid you can find and not see a thing but at least with that comes a body high. I can eat hundreds of dollars worth of shrooms and not see a thing either. I guess I can try a quid when I get my straight leaves in a couple days but damn I wish I would have just known where to get pot because at least then I wouldn't have to be sober.
Well, if you've taken tons of acid and shrooms and not gotten any effects (presuming that the acid and shrooms weren't bunk), why did you presume you could get any effects from Salvia?
well the fact is that salvia works on the brain in a COMPLETELY different manner than acid or shrooms, which i assume you'd know hikaru, come on! anyway, i've heard tell that though it's rare there ARE actually people who are naturally so resistant to salvinorin a that it simply will not effect them much, if at all. course that doesn't explain the acid or mushroom thing. i suppose its probably just that you have unusual brain chemistry or architecture or something like that.... sorry dude!
Oh, I realize that, but don't forget: Salvia isn't THAT different. It's still a psychoactive, and it affects certain kappa opioid receptors in the brain. Now, marijuana, Kratom, and I'm sure several other psychoactives all do that (among other things), just in slightly different ways. So Salvia isn't that incredibly far-out. Either way, there are people who don't get effects from Salvia much, but even for these so-called "hardheads," just increasing the dose is usually enough to give them the same effects, and they generally do experience SOME effects, even if they are very mild. If our friend here has taken enough Salvia to render a whale comatose as he says, and hasn't felt anything at all, I doubt that he's a simple hardhead like others are, and I'm not sure even Dr. Shulgin would be able to explain to him why he isn't affected by psychoactives.
Well I've got all the salvia I ordered (sp?) fromt he first batch which was said to be 40x-60x on average from some guy to a bigger order from a real company - leaves, 5x and 10x and still nothing. Well not much. It makes me feel 'dulled' in a sense but there's no high or any other effect I can notice. It's been 4 nights now and only on the 2nd night did I think it was going to start working for me but 2 more nights down and I don't believe it'll work for me. I'd like to know just what it is about my brain that I can't hallucinate. Marijuana's a psychoactive? Well I'd rather have that and I wish it were legal because that's the only thing that eases my depression. Prescription drugs have no effect, but the effect it's supposed to have such as feeling good, being more outgoing, lessening anxiety, etc. and the only real medicine for that is illegal. But I had really hoped to get answers to life and much bigger things out of salvia after reading so many beyond belief trip reports.
Do you live in a state where marijuana can be used medicinally? Ask your doctor to prescribe it to you for your depression, because "none of the other prescriptions work," I bet you could pull it off.
I know, I can't stand commonwealths. There's no jobs here either, and even being self-employed, it's just not satisfying.
today ive finally tried salvia after a long time of reading up on it. My friend's friend had a little baggie of the stuff and he said its 40X (as it also said on the bag) so i figured i hsould be tripping balls. I took a few hits of weed to relax myself (im quite a stoner so i thoughtthe weed high shouldnt affect my trip) and then i took the bong. I took in a big enough it (as big as i had seen people do before), held it in for about 25 seconds and let it go. I wasnt sure what to expect, but i knew i was supposed to lose it. I didnt, i felt the pushing againt my whole body and i giggled a bit. Also, it became very apparent to me that i had lost all inhibitions and that not necessarily was i more outgoing but i just felt really free. I stayed like that for a few mins and after that all i felt was high, like a pot high. I felt high for almost an hour and it felt no different than if had smoked a joint or somehintg. After my turn someone else packed a bowl pretty much the same amount i had and held it in (most of it at least) for less than i did. WIthin seconds he was gone farhter away than ive ever seen anyone else...he started drooling from laghter and kept saying aa bunch or random things (about rocks and his beard and life) I plan on trying salvia again, soon. I would not mind tripping like that at all but i was wondering what made me not trip like that. did i just need more or did my mind just somehow blocked the trip because i wasnt truly ready for it?
You said you are a stoner, and I don't see any particular flaw in your technique of smoking it. Just remember that you can't smoke it like weed. Uhm ... other than the fact that different people react to the same amount in different ways, I don't know. It's possible that you're a "hardhead" and need more Salvia than most people to break through: I've seen a person go through half a gram of 6x and not feel any powerful effects, and then I personally went through a quarter of a gram of 6x and was as inebriated (fucked up) as your friend. So try it again, but don't increase the dose too dramatically. 40x is a LOT. And I mean, a LOT. I'm not comfortable dealing with anything more than 10x. So take a lot of caution. Also, different dealers put in different amounts of salvinorin-A. "10x" means the salvinorin-A content if 9 leaves is put onto a 10th leaf. What that DOESN'T tell you, however, is how much salvinorin-A is in each leaf. Some vendors you strong leaves, some vendors use weak leaves. One vendor can have 12 mg of salvinorin-A in a "6x" extract, and another vendor can have 21 mg of salvinorin-A in a "6x" extract, and they are both 6x, even though one is almost twice as potent. It's possible that the 40x is also a little weaker than some other 40x extracts. Also, many vendors don't go up to 40x; I have never heard of a pure 40x extract; I've heard of 30x with a 10x of another herb that wasn't Salvia-related, but not pure 40x. I wonder if it's possible that the person who made the extract went so high because the leaves they used were weak. Anyway, I've also smoked Salvia after smoking some herb. If you didn't get very powerful effects from the Salvia, that means the hour that you spent feeling high was probably because of the weed. Only powerful smoked Salvia experiences last for up to an hour, and weaker ones (like you described) tend to only last noticably for 10 or 15 minutes. Give it another shot though. =) The power of the trip doesn't depend on how "ready" you are, but how you react to that power does. You want to prepare yourself mentally to "let go of everything," even more than acid or shrooms, because Salvia will completely overwhelm all of your senses. On a very powerful experience, you might not even believe yourself to be in reality anymore. =P That can be really scary, and if you freak out during an experience, it could easily lead you into a paradox where you just get even more deathly scared, and you have a really bad experience. That seems to me to be because they aren't ready to "let go" of literally everything.
