Taking Drugs Is Wrong!

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by skycanvas, Apr 29, 2005.

  1. skycanvas

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    "WHAT'S GETTING LOST IN THIS WHOLE DEBATE IS THIS: TAKING DRUGS IS WRONG."

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    -BUSH'S ANSWER TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT SHOULD DO ABOUT HIGH PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES IN THE USA
     
  2. Scholar_Warrior

    Scholar_Warrior Be Love Now

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    Bush is an idiot.
     
  3. Jointman69

    Jointman69 High Nigga Pie

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    a smart idiot. wiat im drunnk
     
  4. Blissful Thinking

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    Hypocrisy anyone?
     
  5. mynameisjake07

    mynameisjake07 Banned

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    whats the point of this thread?
     
  6. Spastic_Monkey

    Spastic_Monkey Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I don't think the dude that started the thread even knows
     
  7. underplay

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    If the quote is true then there is a point..
     
  8. PokeSmot

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    i like bush. i read in a magazine that he used to arrange for keg deliveries at college parties, thats the kinda man i want as prez cuz my man can FUCKIN PARTAY
     
  9. adoutsider

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    I thought bush used to be a crack head?
     
  10. skycanvas

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    Rock and Roll: Bush keeps a picture of himself with two members of ZZ Top, but does not play the song "Tube Snake Boogie" during his celibacy lectures. We have found no evidence to support the the most explosive allegation so far; that Bush played air guitar to a Foghat record at a party in the late 1970s. But he won't deny it, either.

    When pressed on the hypocrisy issue, he speaks to hypocritical baby boomer parents everywhere: "If I were you, I wouldn't tell your kids that you smoked pot unless you want 'em to smoke pot. I think it's important for leaders, and parents, not to send mixed signals. I don't want some kid saying, 'Well, Governor Bush tried it.'"

    It's amazing enough that he openly defends hypocrisy, but his own signals are very mixed. When allowed to imply that he is just another manly, hard-drinking rapscallion, Bush seizes the opportunity. "When I was young and irresponsible, I was really young and irresponsible," he often says. He even hints at pot smoking, as in the above quote, and why not? Everyone from his likely opponent Al Gore to Newt Gingrich has admitted smoking pot.

    But Junior wants it both ways. When the deadly rumor of cocaine use surfaces, he retreats to his high-minded rhetoric about not giving mixed messages. If he thinks he can skate to the presidency without either his right-wing foes or embittered Clintonistas pushing his past into the limelight, then he really IS on drugs.


    Sources
    The Bush Watch (web site), an opinionated, well-researched and reasonably fair (though blatantly liberal) anti-Bush site. http://www.bushwatch.com

    "The Sons Also Rise", by Evan Thomas, Newsweek, November 16, 1998 p44-8

    "Like Most, I'm Amazed" (Bush interview with Howard Fineman), Newsweek, November 16, 1998

    "Another Bush Contemplates Run for Presidency", by Sue Anne Pressley (Washington Post news service), San Francisco Chronicle, May 12, 1997 pA5

    "The Bush Brothers", by Howard Fineman, Newsweek, November 2, 1998 p30-33

    Check out http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#cocaine[​IMG]
     
  11. skycanvas

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    "IT WAS JUST INEBRIATING WHAT MIDLAND WAS ALL ABOUT THEN."
    -FROM A 1994 INTERVIEW, AS QUOTED IN FIRST SON BY BILL MINUTAGLIO

    -GW; From A 1994 Interview, As Quoted In First Son By Bill Minutaglio
     
  12. underplay

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    Wow that just makes him even a worse president.

    He was a crackhead. Wait...why is he president again? :eek:

    The pot aint so bad..but the crack..common now!
     
  13. skycanvas

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    Dick Cheney on Drugs (Bills he proposed)

    Post federal rewards for snitching on drug sales
    Cheney co-sponsored H.R.4470 (1988):

    * to provide for monetary awards payable to persons who provide information leading to the arrest and conviction of individuals for the unlawful sale of a controlled substance

    * to provide for incentive awards to States payable from funds arising from forfeitures under Federal drug laws

    * and to provide for the retirement of all US notes of the denomination of $100 and their replacement with new notes in such denomination.
    Source: Thomas Register of Congressional Votes Jan 1, 1988
     
  14. skycanvas

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    "I WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTIONER. I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO ASK THE QUESTIONERS THE QUESTION THEY'VE BEEN QUESTIONING. AUSTIN, TEXAS, JAN. 8, 2001
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  15. skycanvas

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    "I THINK WE AGREE, THE PAST IS OVER."
    -ON HIS MEETING WITH JOHN MCCAIN, DALLAS MORNING NEWS, MAY 10, 2000
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  16. skycanvas

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    http://www.cedro-uva.org/lib/reinarman.dutch.html

    The Dutch example shows that liberal drug laws can be beneficial


    Craig Reinarman

    In 1972, after an exhaustive study by a team of top experts, President Richard Nixon's hand-picked National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse recommended decriminalization of marijuana. Five years later, President Jimmy Carter and many of his top cabinet officials made the same recommendation to Congress. Both the Commission and the Carter administration felt that the "cure" of imprisonment was worse than the "disease" of marijuana use. U.S. drug control officials argued strenuously that Congress should ignore such recommendations, which it did.

    At about the same time, however, the Dutch government's own national commission completed its study of the risks of marijuana. The Dutch Commission also concluded that it made no sense to send people to prison for personal possession and use, so Dutch officials designed a policy that first tolerated and later regulated sales of small amounts of marijuana.

    Denouncing the Dutch

    Since then, U.S. drug control officials have denounced Dutch drug policy as if it were the devil himself. One former U.S. Drug Czar claimed that all the Dutch youth in Amsterdam's Vondel Park were "stoned zombies." Another said "you can't walk down the street in Amsterdam without tripping over junkies." In the Summer of 1998, however, one such denouncement turned into a small scandal. The first part of this chapter examines this incident as a window on the politics of drug policy. The second part offers a more general analysis of why U.S. drug control officials seem to be so threatened by the Dutch example.

    In early July, the U.S. Drug Czar, General Barry McCaffrey, announced that he would soon go on a "fact finding tour" of the Netherlands to learn first hand about its drug policy. He quickly made it clear, however, that he would be bringing his own facts. Before he ever left home, McCaffrey denounced the Dutch approach to drugs as "an unmitigated disaster" (CNN, July 9, 1998). If he had let it go at that, the General might have avoided international embarrassment for himself and the Clinton administration. But he proceeded to make claims about drugs and crime in the Netherlands that were incorrect and insulting. Dutch officials and journalists immediately caught him with his evidentiary pants down and publicly rebutted his false charges...
     
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    Drug Czar Rewrites Scripts
    White House, Congress, TV networks all at fault over drug-ad deal

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    This your television splattered with propaganda. Any Questions?


    LOS ANGELES -- The Clinton administration, Congress, and the networks are all to blame for the recent controversy over the insertion of anti-drug messages into TV programs, the Libertarian Party of California announced today.

    "This story is more insidious than anything on 'The X-Files' and demonstrates without a doubt that public-private partnerships are dangerous," stated Libertarian state chair Mark Hinkle. "Our failed War on Drugs now has another casualty: the 98% of Americans who watch network television and were subject to hidden government propaganda."

    Last week, the Internet magazine Salon.com broke the story that the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy had been offering networks a financial incentive to insert anti-drug messages into television shows, and even reviewed scripts prior to airing and suggested changes without the knowledge of show producers and writers.

    On Tuesday "drug czar" Barry McCaffrey announced, amid a firestorm of criticism, that the ONDCP would no longer be reviewing scripts or tapes of shows prior to broadcast.

    "Mr. McCaffrey's policy reversal is not enough: his office should not be reviewing anything at all," Hinkle said. "This entire program is a travesty meant to further a drug policy that is destroying our cherished liberties."

    According to Salon.com, in 1997 Congress approved a five-year, $1 billion buy for anti-drug advertisement on the condition that the networks sell the ad time to the government at half-price. "Our Republican Congress is using its fanatical obsession with drugs as an excuse to shred the Constitution," Hinkle pointed out.

    But according to Libertarians, the TV networks are just as much at fault here. Unhappy with this law, networks accepted the ONDCP compromise of receiving "credits" for the ad time in return for inserting anti-drug messages into programs such as "ER" and "The Drew Carey Show."

    "The networks signed a deal with the devil," Hinkle accused. "When faced with losing ad money or kowtowing to the government, they caved in.

    "Given Hollywood's love affair with the Clinton administration, this experience should give TV executives pause," Hinkle concluded. "The government should never be given any sort of control over the media -- and voters should be wary of politicians who will do anything to support the War on Drugs."

    Source:
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    NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF CALIFORNIA
    400 Capitol Mall, Suite 900
    Sacramento, CA 95814
    (916) 449-3941
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    For immediate release: January 20, 2000
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    Dick Cheney on Drugs

    Request media participation in War on Drugs

    Cheney co-sponsored the following bills in Congress:

    * H.J.RES.712 (1986):A resolution to request that the entertainment industry take certain steps to assist in the national war against illegal drugs.

    * H.CON.RES.315 (1984):A resolution expressing the sense of the Congress that the television and radio networks and stations broadcasting coverage of the XXIII Olympiad include announcements or other informational programming to discourage drug and alcohol abuse by young people.

    Source: Thomas Register of Congressional Votes Jan 1, 1986

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  19. skycanvas

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    Annual drug deaths: tobacco: 395,000, alcohol: 125,000, 'legal' drugs: 38,000, illegal drug overdoses: 5,200, marijuana: 0. Considering government subsidies of tobacco, just what is our government protecting us from in the drug war?
    --Ralph Nader
     
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    The Nazis said they had a Jewish problem. We say we have a drug abuse problem. Actually, 'Jewish problem' was the name the Germans gave to their persecution of the Jews; 'drug abuse problem' is the name we give to our persecution of people who use certain drugs.
    --Thomas Szasz, M.D.
     
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