Before you Look for a place to belong

Travelors etc.

I am noticing a trend with folks that do not work, do not participate in at least helping others or in the way of being self sustained. Notice this is applicable to all of the above.



Your lazy.

You have no excuse for your petty complaints of "this is not enough and I want more" attitudes.

You sit back and complain about how "fast paced" or "self absorbed " etc everyone in the working community is yet you leech off the people you complain about! All the "nervous" energy you get from us "working" folks is due to us holding your lazy asses hands! I dont claim to be a full blown hippy, but rather striving, admiring and learning. I like to think I am open minded, but not so open minded that I do not notice the younger and soem older so called self labeled peaceful liberal hippies that complain about the working folks caught up in the world while they STILL live with mom and dad or leech off others who have to work becuase they keep leeching and then complaining about very people still supporting them! They are not on the same page? Try being a little more responsbile for yourself so that the working folks can have that peace that you steal away from becuase you are free loading in spiritually, emotionally, physically and monetary ways. Oh, You are at a different point in your life? Yes you are at a "I wanna be lazy" so I will skapegoat everyone else point! No matter your age there is no excuse. Get up and un-ass yourself and then talk about who is peaceful or peace-loving. Be one instead of being part of a problem. Look within yourself instead of approval from others for validation of your negative or lack of actions. You want a ticket of approval to be lazy and irresponsible and still complain about others? No ticket here. Find a ticket for a better way.

Even if you stay in a self sustained community you should use your "energy" to do your part and if you dont do your part then another person has to use their extra energy to do your part and then you harp on them for not being mentally available to you. Why are they so tired and high strung? Gee is it there age or is it becuase your selfish? Learn to give a man a helping hand or teach him the way, but stop your using, judging and self validating. Grow up! If you are staying with folks use the time to learn how to help so that you can be useful in that communal setting or those places that you travel to.

 

totally agree. i was having the same discussion with a mate of mine today. nothing in life is free. if you want anything then you have to work for it. sometimes very hard! this doesn't mean selling out and going to work for someone else though.

i think a nice compromise is what i'm doing at the moment, which is living on the road and selling jewellery and art to survive.

i dont work for anyone and have nothing to do with big corporations, yet i dont take from anyone either, (including the state system).

for me, this seems to be the best way to live. do what i want when i want, hurt no-one, take from no-one and just generally go with the flow!!

peace and love
stardust
xxx

 

i can wholeheartedly agree with what was said there, albeit a bit harshly said,,,, but then again how can i call someone else harsh since i have been labeled that myself,,,

sad thing is that i have found is that those that leech n mooch and are lazy ass sloths do not even realize that they are being that way and unfortunately no matter how hard one tries to show , teach , lead by example etc etc,,, they just aint gunna get it through their pea brains,,, it is too well set in stone,,,, and then they deem those of us that are trying as mean , nasty, evil , cruel, pushy, bossy n the list can go on forever,,,,,

 

i think its good to be both hard working and dedicated, and a little bit lazy. as long as the lazy dont turn to leaching. ive learned to do without most everything in life, except for one meal a day a cup of coffee and some cigarettes. so that can afford me to be a little lazier than most. i think alot of times when someone is working so hard, working extra hard, to make something work, its easy to look around and see people not living up to your standard. ive seen hard workers send a company or even a farm straight into debt, ive seen lazy workers save a company thousands of dollars. now i dont like free loaders any more than you kids, but if youre workin 50 hrs on a farm every week, but you have a stake in having a house there, i wouldnt look down on a kid still learnin if he only works 20 hrs a week. now if someone just came to squat on your spot, and started demanding food and pot, then thats another thing, but some people are gifted in many different ways, and everyone shouldnt be held to the best workers standard. but i agree with you , there are alot of leachers and dreamers, and alot of kids who are used to mommy spoiling them.

 

Sometimes I wonder if I'm just tooting the horn to hear the sound.


You literally every day give your life to what you ive.
If you do not like what that is - only you can change it
Change takes consistent earnest effort.

The changes you make inside yourself - to change your internal programs must be a 24/7 - no choice - exceptions become the rule.

Working in community - yeah now just how much do you want it to happen ... Yet wayfarer has a real point - that you just gotta let it be too - some learn the lesson the hard way by pushing too much and sometimes in that process they lose the whole ball of wax and end up not having at all what they thought they were going toward.
One day at a time - every day allow yourself to Be - recognize that sometimes your place is to walk in appreciation - the Earth does not get enough lovin appreciation....

So be gentle but firm with yourself - ... Be the Being you want to BE

Loving You All

 

Who the fuck are you to just assume that everyone who wants to live in a commune or any other alternative living arrangement is lazy and wouldn't contribute? hate to break it to you,b ut you're the FURTHEST thing from being peaceful or a hippy! being peaceful is about acceptance, tolerance and kindness - not self-righteous "Oh I'm so fucking great because I make a lot of money" bullshit. Take your fucking attitude, shove it up your ass, and fire another fucking employee you stupid self-centered egomanial yuppie fuck!

 

I think the negativity from either side is unwarranted. However I do agree with Sister GoldenHair about lazy people sucking. I also agree with wintersashses about assumpitons, tolerance, etc;

Everyone should contribute as they can to what they desire so therefore they can appreciate it more......But hating those that don't is, in the end just as bad as sitting on your ass because the hate eventually seeps into the fabric of the souls involved and causes destruction.

Peace be with you,
-B

 

Wintersashes,

As moderator of this forum, I have the unpleasant task of trying to ease up discord before it gets out of hand. Normally I would not put this out on the public forum - but you have disabled the ability to send you PMs - saw how negative your posts - plural - usually are - full of anger. While that type of communication may be satisfying to you, you are attacking other members - and that is a banning offense - so be warned, please tone down your attack mode or take it elsewhere.
Thank you

 

i have to comment on this i really
​

cant disagree but i will speak on my ​

behalf​

i am 25 and i bust my ass wherever i am at i travel​

from commune to farm ect ect . to HELP and that​

is what i do i do get pissed off a folks thats sit on there ass​

why i work or folks that say im BORED when there is tons of things to ​

do ​

but i am a hard workin young buck and i dont have any ​

intention of changin ​

so make sure you dont label everyone in that negative​

catagory cause i am not one of them​

i am a true wandering spirit that is here for the land​

and the beautiful people that i meet on this journey in ​

life these beautiful people and beautiful land are ​

why i do what i do ​

remeber there are still good people out there​

there just gettin harder to find​

all my love and blessin ​

one of the good ones ​

measa​

 

a few of you seem to be taking this thread personally when it was stated clearly at the beginning of the post who it was aimed at.

it wasn't saying that people who want to travel or live on communes are all like that. it was aimed at the freeloaders who give nothing in return.

i think the lifestyle that many are dreaming or actually living is fantastic. you dont need loads of money to survive, and cutting down on material possesions is a great way to not need money.

but it is crap for people who work really hard, (not nessecarily for money, maybe in exchange for food etc) to have to watch someone doing nothing and getting exactly the same as them.

the 60's ideal of "everything is free" was a lovely dream, but it just isnt practical in these times.

peace and love
stardust
xxx

 

Winterashes are you must be one of those people? I will copy and paste what I wrote so that you can RE READ what I wrote and if it doesnt apply to you then you may use your right to ignore it !
I am noticing a trend with folks that do not work, do not participate in at least helping others or in the way of being self sustained. Notice this is applicable to all of the above.
Now I may ask you did I say anybody? NO. Ok then moving on and lets focus? Decaf buddy.

 

Star Dust and Dilagaf - My thanks you are sweet hearts. I know it was coming across as harsh, but somebody at one or another has to be firm depending on who really needs to hear it or see it. Sometimes it takes a real shake up. The people that dislike it the most are the ones who want a continued free ride and to still complain about how imperfect things are for them. I have no problem with people who want to do very little, but at least they are doing it and maintaining a peaceful attitude which is very healing and yes we all need that. I am still reading comments so I will try to address everyone. Thanks again blessings to you

 

Wayfaring and Oldwolfe thank you for the very sound and balanced comments. I hope you both continue to guide the way becuase you are very good at this. Thanks again.
Peace and Blessings

 

Sodabandito

You are a true peacemaker. My thanks.
Keeping the balance!

 

Measa420
The world needs more people like you. What a fine example. I could learn alot from you.

 

Well, I had typed a reply to this, but then my connection had a conniption and I lost it right as I went to post it--so here goes again! I think you've all made some wonderful points in reply to this topic, and it's been very educational to me. At first I didn't ever really think of that if you pushed *too* hard, that things would go bad...but now that that has been pointed out, it's like--duh! Of course! But yeah, I agree, no matter where you are living, you should do some work to contribute. I mean, to expect that there will be no expectations of you helping out, doing some kind of chore (whatever that may be) is very unrealistic. Peace!