10 Ways to Win an Argument?

agreed.

 

was your intention in starting this thread to make us "kick up a stink," then?

 

No, actually. It was intended to draw attention to the fact that it seems ok in today's society for women to take advantage of men, yet if it was the other way round, it would be considered wrong (and yes, I do considering it wrong myself ... but both ways)

 

I have learned that you dont want to win a fight if you really love the person your with then you'd rather get along then be right.

 

I couldn't have but it better myself ... thank you!

 

You would have thought they'd have the ultimate argument winner.



Being right

 

I'm as opposed of negative images of woman in the media as anyone, but at some point, we need to start giving people credit for thinking for theirselves. Everyone says "well, this and this sets a bad example for woman" and blah blah blah, like we're little children! Don't you think woman know better? Yeah, some woman do this, but some woman also will go home with a guy for $10. Some woman sell drugs. Some woman kill people. Some woman do a lot of things. That doesn't mean we all do. We're not sheep. We're not going to see an image of a woman on TV or on the internet and automatically become that. That's absurd.

I think the 10 ways to win an argument thing is stupid and it does reflect a stereotype of woman, but saying that it's a bad influence creates another stereotype of woman. Do we really need more of those?

 

Horrible, but the truth is, it works

 

It's amazing that we'll tell ya "you know, not only are you manipulative but you seek out ways to be manipulative" and you'll ARGUE til yer BLUE IN THE FACE "no we're not! no we're not!"


Quod Erat Demonstrandum and no that isn't a spell from "Harry Potter"

*shaking head*

 

definately vommitted a little bit when i read that but i agree with lawngirl and twiztidrainbow, if a girl actually follows through on this garbage then she is a fucking idiot.


yes and carl's link was funny

 

Culture Revolution - you all do. Trust me.

 

IronGoth, the Ultimate Authority on womyn. Iron, that was a huge generalization, unless, of course, you are on intimate terms with all 3 billion plus womyn on the planet?

There is no silly internet list that I would ever say all of anyone does to a T.

 

I dunno. What's a womyn?

 

A lady who is strong enough to say she will spell it how ever she wishes to.

A woman who is also strong enough to know that if she has partner it will not matter to him as it should not. He will know her well enough to know why she might choose to spell it that way.

I do not use that spelling but respect those that choose to use it.

Simply respect of person is enough.

It is spelling....should not be an issue.

 

I'm authority on some things - and I always get my facts from reliable sources. When I say women kill children WAY more often than men ever do, I quote the real justice department statistics to do so.

I don't, like I was subjected to in college, make stuff up. I remember full well some wimmyon's studies moron lecture at us that the reason there's no men's birth control pill is that we want to subjugate women, rant rant rant. When I got the stats on the subject (I personally fund research for this, because after my buddy got put through the enforced paternity wringer I wanted me and my fellow men to have the same access and rights to good birth control , near 100% birth control, as women.) it was "well, you're just trying to blind me with science, typical male oppressor."

So I sigh and she goes on that obviously there's some niche market, and the near complete lack of research money indicates an anti-wimoyn bias, and I said wait up, the female pill works, they're spending far more on a male pill, it would be a gold mine and give both genders more options, she comes right back with "well, that's typical. Male health issues always get more money, because wiommmmmyn are oppressed..." (Wanna compare breast cancer research grants to prostate cancer stats?)

So I finally said, "look with your logic, the reason we have no cure for AIDS is that there is some vast male straight WASP collective out there with a murderous hate on for gays." To which she said unflinchingly "yes".

I asked to be excused from such empty headed sexist hatemongering and this was granted. That night I was burned in effigy, with hundreds of women chanting that I needed to be killed.

 

I'm getting a really strong sense of Deja Vu.......strong.........

 

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"I always get my facts from reliable sources." - Nothing is absolute. There is only relative truth. Which is susceptible to change at any moment.

 

Feathers - don't take this as a personal threat. But let me just illustrate a fundamental truth.

I was heading home on the bus one night when some black beret wearing person decided I was in need of conversation. So he asked me where I was going, to which I responsed home. He asked me how I knew. I said huh and he started on, obviously parroting the Philosophy 101 course he just took about how could we know, I mean really know what is true and what isn't.

The long and the short of it is I told him I was uninterested in him questioning my thoroughly reasonably understanding that, being on the 123 bus which took me home on a nightly basis, I could certainly expect that the same set of circumstances to occur again.

To which he started rambling on about relative truths, etc. at which point the guy across from him smashed his nose in with a solid right, and told him to change his relative truth to his bleeding nose being intact if he was so bloody clever.

I'm not a violent person by nature, but I concur. I think it reasonable to assume that when a justice deparment or social activist group sponsors a study they intend on looking at the facts. I know you can lie with statistics, and I know how.

 

I can't imagine what I'd do if my wife acted like a 4 year old to get her way. I guess it would depend on the issue.

Note: No, I don't yet have a wife. I was in hypothetical land.