if tehre WAS a god.. waht would happen-

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by StonerBill, Jun 14, 2004.

  1. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    waht would you christians or other god fearing people do if it was found out that there WAS a god, but it was of a different religion? would you change your religion to that of teh rea god, or jsut become more faithful in your own believe, ahving seen proof that there IS a god? would fundamentalists then have wars over what the religion actually is, fuelled greater than other religious wars due to the physical evidence of god?

    i hope u understand waht im asking.
     
  2. Jatom

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    If "my" God were proven to be false, I would not longer believe in Him.
     
  3. Ayesha

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    Well, that is not a problem to me... I believe God is only one, you just have to give him a name so you can call him and talk to him better...I believe God is Love and He doesn't mind if I call him Jah or Alah... He is all about peace and friendship between people ;)

    Kiss*
     
  4. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    I always thought about that... once you die and find out which version of the afterlife is actually accurate.... it'd be interesting....
     
  5. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    What sets Christianity appart from any other religion is the Bible's fulfilled prophecies, archaeological and scientific proof. No other book can compare!


    "As a result, with all the fulfilled prophecies, archaeological and scientific proof a person who rejects the Bible would require more faith than a person that believes it. But still people will go to great heights to try to prove the Bible wrong just so they don't have to obey God's regualtions. But if they only knew that life was just a test with only two possible grades-Heaven or Hell-people would quickly turn and follow Jesus."


    http://r-campbell34.tripod.com/proof/index.html
     
  6. POPthree13

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    Campbell...

    I am not sure how else to put this because you are FULL of CRAP!

    http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/

    Your propoganda does not fool anyone. I have yet to meet a soul as lost as you. 'Seek and you shall find...' or just keep regurgitating crap you copied off the internet somewhere.
     
  7. campbell34

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    popthree13, what religion are you?
     
  8. POPthree13

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    Campbell, I think religion itself can be the greatest stumbling block to finding a relationship with God. Therefore, I claim no religion as my own. I greatly respect the teachings of Jesus and think there are many who come in his name, but spread only lies.
     
  9. campbell34

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    I, myself, am a non denomination Christian. I don't go along with the catholics or the baptist or any denominations. I simply follow what Jesus and the Bible says. You say you "respect the teachings of Jesus" does that mean you believe everything says or some of what he says? Do you believe part of the Bible or all of the Bible? Because it is either all right or all true.
     
  10. POPthree13

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    I disagree with that statement campbell. I challenge you to find a scripture that suggests the bible is ALL RIGHT or ALL WRONG. I think most people ASSUME a lot of stuff about Christianity that has absolutely no support in the bible.

    Beyond that, I know that the bible is a fragmented document which has many, many authors, has undergone many, many translations and represents only a fraction of the material that was available to the councils who assembled it for you (almost 300 years after the death of Jesus). There was widespread disagreement on what was valid, what was true, what was to be included, etc. etc. for hundreds (sometimes almost thousands of years) and then Rome dictated that THIS is to be the ONE and ONLY bible from here on out and you bought it. Good for you. Jesus didn't say that. Find out who did and then you will know whos ideas you are spreading.
    I think what Jesus taught is a valid path to find God on. I follow what I feel is right. Parting seas, arcs full of animals, staffs into serpents, talking snakes, pillars of salt.... these have nothing to do with my relationship with God so I would rather not even discuss it. Does it REALLY matter? Only to those trying to prove themselves instead of looking for truth.
     
  11. campbell34

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    Sometimes the debate between those who see the Bible as the inspired Word of God, and those who see it as a document produced by human writers and editors becomes frozen in the following exchange. Those who are identified as fundamentalists or biblical literalists will say something like this. "You can't pick and choose among books or passages from the Bible, suggesting that some are true while others are false. Either the Bible is inspired or it isn't. Either it's the infallible Word of God, or its writers were liars. God doesn't inspire falsehood." In making this case such persons cite certain scripture passages as proof of the pudding. For example, 2 Timothy 3:16-17, which reads: "All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that people of God may be complete, equipped for every good work."

    http://christianity.about.com/cs/bible/a/bibletruth.htm

    Therefore, if one part of it is not true then all of it is not true because the Bible says it is inspired by God but if there are errors in it then it was not really inspired really inspired by God. IT ONLY TAKES ONE ERROR TO PROVE THE BIBLE WRONG.



    -THE BIBLE IS A COMPILATION OF 66 DIFFERENT BOOKS

    -WRITTEN BY MORE THAN 40 DIFFERENT AUTHORS

    -WRITTEN ON 3 DIFFERENT CONTINENTS, WRITTEN IN 3 DIFFERENT
    LANGUAGES--HEBREW, GREEK AND ARAMAIC

    -WRITTEN OVER A TIME SPAN OF 1600 YEARS

    -ALL THE AUTHORS CAME FROM DIFFERENT:
    WALKS OF LIFE
    CULTURES
    BACKROUNDS
    COUNTRIES
    TIME ERAS,
    MOST OF THESE AUTHORS NEVER MET EACHOTHER--
    YET THROUGHOUT ALL 66 DIFFERENT BOOKS, EVERY AUTHOR
    HAD ONE THEME-

    GOD'S PLAN OF REDEMPTION FOR HUMANITY THROUGH JESUS
    CHRIST WITHOUT A CONTRADICTION


    -FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END OF THE BIBLE IT ADDRESSES
    EXTREME CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES, TOUCHY SUBJECTS SUCH AS:
    *LIFE
    *MEANING OF LIFE
    *MARRIAGE
    *HOMOSEXUALITY
    *SIN
    *GOD
    *HEAVEN/HELL
    YET WITHOUT A CONTRADICTION

    -MILLIONS OF COPIES COME OFF THE PRESS EVERY YEAR, IT IS
    STILL THE #1 SELLER AROUND THE WORLD, THE MOST SOUGHT
    AFTER LITERATURE ON EARTH

    *TRANSLATED IN WELL OVER 1000 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES

    *THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY RELIGIOUS WRITING THAT APPEALS TO:
    THE MOST EDUCATED YET THE MOST UNSCHOOLED
    THE OLDEST ADULT YET THE YOUNGEST CHILD ALIKE
    CROSSCULTURAL, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHICH CORNER OF THE
    WORLD YOU GO TO, THE BIBLE WILL BE IN GREAT DEMAND

    *THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY RELIGIOUS WRITING THAT SPEAKS WITH
    AUTHORITY--
    WHERE WE COME FROM
    WHY WE WERE CREATED
    WHERE WE ARE GOING

    *EVEN THOUGH IT DATES BACK THOUSANDS OF YEARS, IT STANDS
    THE TEST OF TIME AND IS STILL RELEVANT AND SURPASSES THE
    UNDERSTANDING OF MODERN MAN
     
  12. POPthree13

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    "All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that people of God may be complete, equipped for every good work."

    All scripture does not mean the Bible. It means ALL scripture. What happened to the hundreds of scriptures disregarded when the bible was assembled? Remember that the bible was not assembled until 220 years after Timothy was written so how can it apply to the bible as it exists today? Since only the old testament in various scrolls and parchments was in wide circulation at the time, I would assume timothy was talking about that.
    All scripture? So if I write something down and call it a scripture it becomes the word of God? Who decided what was scripture and what wasn't? This is where that homework comes in... So THEY can decide what to take and what to leave, but we are unable? Does God only talk to a few?
     
  13. campbell34

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    God guided men to put the Bible together as it is today and the entire book points to salvation through the shed blood of Jesus Christ.
     
  14. POPthree13

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    I disgree with that. The Roman Emperor Constantine directed the assembly of the bible and I think his empire was more important to him than the word of god. It all points to one conclusion because they left out most of the relevant information. I thik Jesus' blood is a parable (and it is not even used that often) that simply says he died to bring us a message. Instead of following that message we are lost in a book that he did not write (although some scholars beleive he did actually pen some scriptures, they were conveniently left out of the bible and were probably destroyed to cover their tracks.)
     
  15. SvgGrdnBeauty

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    I think that the Bible is meant to be figurative not literal. It makes sense...Jesus
    taught in parables...so perhaps that the Bible is partly parable...see what I'm saying? Like the old fables..this is in refrence MOSTLY to the old testiment...they are fabricated stories made to teach us lessons to bring us closer to God and to tell us of the coming of Jesus Christ...then the New Testiment are the stories of Jesus Christ, then Acts and beyond become the stories of the speading of Jesus's work....
     
  16. campbell34

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    MidnightMoonlight,

    Do you believe there is a hell?
    Do you believe there is a end of days/rapture?
     
  17. campbell34

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    You are picking and choosing. The Bible is all right or all wrong. Forget about picking between the red and the black.
     
  18. campbell34

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    MidnightMoonlight,

    "THOSE WHO PREACH HELL FIRE AND DAMNATION ARE IN BIG TROUBLE!!!"

    Here is what Jesus said....

    "They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." -Matt. 13 42 ..... (according to you, Jesus is in trouble)



    THOSE WHO PUSH THEIR RELIGION ON OTHERS ARE NOT RIGHT TO DO SO!

    Here is also what Jesus said

    "Come, follow me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men." -Matt 4:19 .... (Yet again Jesus is not right according to what you believe. When telling someone about God they have the right to listen or not... no one is holding a gun to their head. If don't tell others about God however how then will it spread??? You must be the only member in your religion because it is wrong to tell any one about it.)
     
  19. campbell34

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    As Jesus says in the bible, finding God is a personal experience! A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!!!! which means that no-one, NO-ONE has any right to say to another what to believe when it comes to knowing God on a personal level!

    Ok what about the people that never even heard about God? Can you please give me verses of "As Jesus says in the bible, finding God is a personal experience!"

    Jesus says in their, that many will believe but only a small amount will truely realize what the real gift is, not salvation, but it is life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!salvation is a reward not a gift, and salvation is between the individual and God!

    First of all, where does it say that the real gift is not salvation but life. Why did Jesus die on the cross then? Salvation is free ...You simply ask Jesus into your heart. A reward is given to a person when they do something good. But according to the Bible you are not saved by works but by GRACE.

    I found GOD on a personal level and I don't have to explain that to anyone!

    Ok but not everyone is seeking God... For example atheists. There has been many cases where atheist have been converted to a Christians all because someone stood up and told them about Jesus and the truth about the Bible. Now would that have happen if they where selfish and didnt tell anyone about God.

    Mark 16:15 - And he said to them, Go into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.


    http://r-campbell34.tripod.com/thelife/index.html
     
  20. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Yup, you can only be lead to God by God. Fortunately God is everywhere and controls everything.
     
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