10 Ways to Win an Argument?

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I came across this article on the net. I was wondering what women actually feel about this because as a guy, I think it's crazy. It's proabably not meant to be taken seriously but I think it's a really bad example to follow. Also, it shouldn't be called '10 ways to win an arguement' ... it should be '10 ways do degrade yourself to get your own way'.

 

It's not quite satirical enough to be an obvious joke, and I know quite a few women who have done these things to get their way.

 

And anyone asks "What do you mean people degrade womyn? I don't ever see it!"

Cripes, what trash.

 

hmm.. wont let me view it for some reason.. just get a blank page

 

7. Beg
Say, 'Pleeeeease!' Be unashamedly abject. Stoop as low as you can, and then stoop lower! If something appears to mean so much to you, most men won't argue about it
this one is the only one i use and im quite good at it

 

what are you talking about whatever works its better to whine a littler then to be a straight up pushy demanding bitch

 

http://www.ninjapirate.com/logic.html

 

Misogynist claptrap. This was written for guys so they can nod their heads and say, "Yep. Bitch does that to me all the time. Stupid ****. Why doesn't she just shut up and give me some head?" Sheesh. I wonder if guys who hate "feminazis" realize that crap like this creates feminists....

 

Well, my initial thoughts about this article is that, to me, it seems that any woman who would go by those 'rules' would just be degrading themselves. I mean, if my girlfriend wants something, she only needs to ask and if I do disagree, she'll just give me an explanation and I'll give one in return and come to an agreement. And it must work because in the year we've been going out, we've NEVER argued or fell out at all.
I think considering that the article seems to be from Handbag.com, it was wrote for women in particular and not just for guys as a comparison.
I am all for equal rights but it has to work BOTH ways.

 

that can't be meant to be taken seriously. the wording certainly sounds a bit tongue-in-cheek. and i agree, spuff, any woman who reads those rules and thinks they are meant to be taken seriously and actually follows them is not only degrading herself, she is a complete idiot and furthermore is inept at detecting sarcasm. and in our world today the inability to detect sacrasm is most certainly a travisty.

carl -- i like your link much better.

 

this is making me angry

 

ooooooohhhh my god you all take yourself and your damn gender so seriously. loosen up a little-show some t and a-it makes the world a much easier and nicer place.

 

did you look at my link? 'cos you would say the opposite of me, haha.

j/k

 

erghhh socks and sandals together bother me also to no end i want to ask them exactly what they were thinking.

 

Trash? Yes but all so True in many, many cases like it or not.

 

I dont' like it and I don't like whoever created it and I don't care if it is a joke. I don't like it because it is sexist torwards wemon and inspires sexism in people. It portrays (by giving examples to wemon on how to get their way) that they should do that to get their way. It basicly tells them to be a bitch and not communicate with their partners. I think it is sexist to men also because it teaches men (how many 4 year olds read that thing?) that wemon are bitches and men are wemons money bitches. It really pisses me off, and I never want a realtion ship like that. I am not going to be one of those guys that goes home and gives his paycheck to his bitchey wife, I am going to take my paycheck to the bank and forget about it until I need gas money or to pay the bills or whatever. I am going to communicate with my wife about what we buy and make money choices together.

 

yeah it is pretty sad...god forbid men and women could have a rational, non-manipulative conversation.

But, I have to say - I and my friends have been known to resort to flattery from time to time - y'know when you need someone strong to help you shift your furniture or a tall person to change the lightbulb, they are more likely to say yes if you acknowledge that that is why you need their help, rather than have them assume it's just because you're lazy.

 

.... it's a joke guys. not a very good one and certainly not a PC one, but a joke. Yes, it's a grump-enducing one because it's based on gender stereotypes but fuck, what joke isn't based on stereotypes these days.

 

note the title : "10 Devious Ways to Win an Argument"

 

I'm sure if there had been a guide on "10 crafty ways to get your girl to give you head", whether it be serious or not, there would have been a stink kicked up then.