shrooms and 'cid what is the difference?

Now heres a question i've be wondering about for quite some time, one which i've heard quite contradictory answers to, from people i've asked... eg my mates!

So now its time I guess, to ask a wider audience... and hopefully get some accurate and honest feedback.

I've been doin shroomers, in moderate/lite doses (20-25g fresh) now for about 6-7 weeks & absolutely love them. Psilocybe Cubensis (mex and Tai) and Truffles Mexicana are the only psychedelic mushrooms i've ever consumed.

I have never don 'cid.

My friends have, and say boomers are alot crazier than lsd.
But I do realise that this, as with all psychedelics, is a factor of dosage and strength, something very obvious which my friends dont seem to be taking into account.

*Deep breath* They dont know how good the acid was that they were on and didnt regulate their dosage or test the shrooms they took so that they could compare trip strength with dosage.....phew!

i hope this is clear... I would like to know what the fundamental differences are between a trip on very Good ACID and a RELATIVE dose (relative to the strength of the 'cid) of cubensis.

Thank you all

 

acid lasts approximately twice as long as mushrooms, and many people have some conception that one or the other is less likely to cause bad trips, or be more mellow, or what have you, but each time you trip on any psychedelic is different, and these people's opinions are merely colored by their personal experience, which is limited. there is no hard and fast way to describe the differences, although there are some significant differences that become quite obvious when you're using them. the problem is that its so hard to explain, and because it alters you so much that it makes it even harder to describe. the mental processes are very similar but somewhat different in rather superficial ways, the physical effects differ similarly. one thing i notice in my limited experience is that while acid lasts longer and peaks longer, it comes on MUCH MUCH MUCH faster than it fades away into sobriety - usually about half of my acid trip is spent on the come down. mushrooms tend to be a more gentle and comfortable come down for me. but of course, every person reacts to every drug in a different manner, so the only way for you to find out the difference for yourself is to try both.

remember not to trip more than once a week to avoid tolerance, and no more than once every month or two to prevent getting burned out. these are not toys.

there is no way to measure your acid dosage unless you know or are a chemist. period.

 

yeah cool mate thats what i kind of suspected


thanks alot for your opinion though

 

no problem bud

 

In my experience, LSD has always been a bit more of a head trip... like more to do with the mind whereas mushrooms have also been a head trip (as is expected with psychedelics) but has been a bit more 'dreamy' compared to LSD... have had lots of experience with both, at one point using LSD about 8 times a month and mushrooms about 10 times a month... my path has always been more on the spiritual side and i've noticed that mushrooms put me more in touch with the world and cosmos around me, a more connected feeling... LSD gave me extremely revelatory experiences into the self and ones own mind. However it's a very very fuzzy line since i've had both experiences on both drugs.
Definately start off slow and guage your reaction and be as honest to yourself as possible about whether you can handle dosing regularly... i might have to agree that LSD can be very transformative for some people... even people that have been doing shrooms for a while. I expected my first acid trip to be comparable to my mushrooms trips... but it definately was not... not better or worse, just different. The only way you'll know is to try it i guess.

 

i do agree that mushrooms are "dreamier".....like walking through a cloud....whereas acid is a little "crisper"

both make you feel like a child

 

I had a really really crazy epiphany when I tried acid. everything on acid is blunt and it just tears down your reality and builds a new one. if you go with it you can see a lot of shit you didn't before, I mean hallucinating and breaking down a barrier we all have built up for ourselves.

shrooms was just 100% best time of my life. they're beautiful and everything is gorgeous and happy and as someone said.. cloudy and dreamlike!

 

Visually cid is much better. Whereas on shrooms you get that "dreamy" feel and that cool swirly whispy effect, as if you're in some early impressionistic painting, acid is like was said "crisper." Plus you will actually hallucinate things that aren't there. The trip seems somehow more real in my opinion.

 

For those who think that mushrooms are stronger than LSD, LSD is the strongest hallucinogen by weight known to man. So, it is stronger than psilocybin. I usually eat quarters of mushrooms and that still isn't as strong as like 4-6 hits of blotter. And mushrooms make you all sleepy, you get the mushrooms yawns and your eyes water uncontrollably. And the price of them isn't too good either. They're not my preferred psychedelic I guess...

 

i have only gotten mellow buzzes from mushrooms, sid and other chemical drugs tend to make me trip harder but not nessicarily better..............

 

actually this isn't true, there are a few compounds related to LSD that actually have somewhat lower doses, but as for psychedelics that are "easily" obtainable, you're right on the money. a threshhold dose of LSD is somewhere around 60µg according to TiHKAL, whereas its somewhere around 40µg for ETH-LAD. i believe that there are one or two other psychedelic drugs effective in slightly smaller amounts than LSD, but really its not likely at all that anyone reading this will ever come across these substances (though i did encounter AL-LAD once, so who knows?) unless you are or know an accomplished chemist.

 

2ces wild...actually Salviorin A wieght for wieght is the strongest psychedelic known to man

 

You sure about that? I could have sworn it was the most potent NATURAL hallucinogen known to man, but LSD and lsd-related compounds are synthetic.

From an article by Daniel J Siebert in the Entheogen Review:

"The pure compound salvinorin A is active at 200 - 500 mcg when vaporized and inhaled. "

Looks like LSD wins.

 

Hey guys thanks for all the great opinions and info.
Im never going to go out of my way to look for cid cos i just love shrooms so freakin much.
I will end up taking it eventually though, theres no denying that. I havnt explored reality on mushies enough yet though.
Microdots and sheet acid float around my area about every 8 months or so, my mates even got some last nite, so when i decide im ready i shouldnt have to look that hard.

Couldnt agree more Vulva Queen!

 

well if it's around i'd say buy a little now and just stuff it in the icebox. when it's not around, its NOT around, and when it's available it's usually relatively briefly.

 

Hey thats a good idea, I think ill just do that!
Ill let you all know about my first trip whenever it happens!

Thanks again!

 

i guess i would say yeh acid is a bit "clearer" but i dunno if thats the right kinda adjective.

I've heard of people completely losing it on acid though, like their surroundings dont make any sense and everything is just light and color.

To the people with experiences in ego loss... which is better for forgeting that you are an individual. Like which drug induces ego loss at the lowest dosage levels... and which one (if either) is it easier to still comprehend things while not being in ur body?

I find that ego loss on DXM becomes terribly foggy and its hard to rememeber any organized thought.

 

Well....Acid can be a very mind blowing experience just by the way it hits you.... That i think is one of the main diffrences.... Mushrooms you can feel break down in you stomach and slowly put u there.... Acid i just "BAM!"..... and your so blasted.... With acid you pretty much watch the change in the world around you.... everybody is completely right about the whole acid is crisper thing.... Also ive noticed that im a bit on the verge of loosing my mind on acid while on mushrooms i feel like if i close my eye's then im gonna go to sleep... I have had good trips on both but i have also had "Uncomfortable" trips on both too.... so just be carful with tripping its all your mind and how it works.

 

Complete loss of connection to visual surroundings can happen on either drug. I'd say a halfie of dried mushrooms will obscure your visual field a lot, probably like 6-10 blotters. As for ego loss, first-timers can usually lose their ego from like an eighth or so of mushrooms, acid like 2-4 hits, depends on quality, and of course the person.