Checked out the site, nothing really there yet, there is a forum though, but, what's gonna be in it? I mean, we've got this thread for example, we could talk here or we could join up on MSN or whatever and have a group meeting, such sort of thing. Personally I'm curious to the actuall purpose of the site...you can do good things with it. I liked the things you said about:"just spread the word to anyone who will listen" If we want to take action we should pick out our points, what we stand for, wanna change etc. Then figure out a way to "spread the word" If we do it right and lots of people co-opperate, we could spread the word all around the globe, since there are a lot of users with different countries in this thread. A good promoting example would be something like a logo, or a text that we make show up in the entire world and get "popular" So everyone gets to know it and gets curious about what it means. I say promote because I think that's the way to go, think about what we want, than bring it to the people in a nice and attention full way, kinda of a marketing plan. If played correctly everyone will know about it What you're doing now at the moment is bad imo, when I read both of your posts I see and understand them as an aggresive or angry post, which is probably not your intention, but still bad image promoting. We shouldn't come across as agressive, nor floaty or anything, just have a good powerfull message. I do think ruinedshadow has quite some powerfull speach, which is good let me know...
our first move should be to go together, everybody, and take down Bush and the other devils! They got the guns but we got the numbers! I swear! one big wind of everybody whos against Bush would take them down! If we would act now i think we would succeed! We should just set a date when everybody whos against Bush should assemble and take them down!
RuinedShadow if you need anything for the site just let me know I'm all for this idea and I want to contribute in anyway that I'm needed.
All it would take is one incident, one person to get the attentions of all the kids today and boom there could be another hippy movement. And yes we need a leader.
I already have an idea for spreading the word, but I got a little burnt out from coding ad started seeing html in my sleep so I took a break for a few days, I've already got three other sites lined up who want to link together. and I'm starting a memetic enlightenment program which will serve as insripation to the masses but also spread word about the site. I'm gathering resources atm so it'll be about a week or so before I add some more content but it will come. I am very dedicated to this and as far as getting attention if there are any musicians out there then write us some good ól protest songs. peace for now, and later all
Actions DO speak louder than words but wrongful actions make listening ears go deaf. I'm just trying to say spread the word and the love that is an action in itself. Activism is clearly the right path but lack of organization tends to cause problems. As children of nature we need to use our words and our actions to change the minds of the intolerant and ignorant. peace, love, understanding and respect ez
Hey, heres the deal, ready, we live in a society that only cares about one thing, and thats "caring about yourself.", its messed up but its true, we don't have any cares in the world its just makin our parents happy and our parents are washed up into society. Sure we can all belive that this war is wrong, but really we keep out thoughts to ourselves because we are afarid of what others would think of us. we do need to gather in the streets and spread a message of peace!! We need to start something before its just too dam late!!
It cant be done through violence, or ripping down of current system. it needs to be like a marijuana seed planted amongst a bunch of weeds, growing and leaving the land clean. it cant be done by trying to replicate 'hippies' becauise the whole point of the original hippy movement was that it was new, never before done. we need a new breed of hippy and we DO need a leader. this cannot be done if everyone is workign their own goals. one leader is needed to start a movement, or lead a movement, you are cheating yourself if you think that a movement such as this can be acheieved without some figure taking the lead at the start. multiple leaders and icons can follow. the first leader will msot likely be one step, and as it catches on, the group is lead by more and more. The world culture is completely differnet now, a new and differnet approach needs to be taken. most of the people here cant do anything caus theyre in school, lazy computer nerds, or simply dont have self confidence, like most people in this world. when i said we need a leader, i wasnt saying that I myself did not want to strive to be this leader, or one of the leaders of tomorrow. I in fact do. but thats irrelevant to all people who want to lead and actually do somethign for the world, if there is the naivity to think that big thigns can be done without a unifying force. the planted cannabis seed doesnt necessarily, or primarily represent infiltrating forces, though it most possibly could. it represents the growing of a new culture from beneath the surface of conservatism and neo-liberalism (which i think is detrimental myself) this world thigns about one thing, ones self. thats partially because of the fear factor. partly, i believe because of the media, television, single player videogames, occupational health and safety regulations, the failure of the original hippy movement to hold strong (leaving people thinkngin all those ideals were foolish), the internet back in teh 60's kids who wanted to play had to go out on the lawn and play with eachother. people werent afraid to band together and have communal gatherings (oh&s not prevents this largely). if people wanted to converse, they had to gather together. there wasnt the huge power of the media to let people recieve messages in their arm chairs. there werent forums such as these. imagine if we wanted to discuss all teh topics we do on tehse forums, wed have to actually go and talk with groups of people who want to discuss things. people can now put up any identity on the internet. i dont know at the moment how we can overcome this gap in the new world. but it probably has to start in the shaping of the children of today and tomorrow. the influencing has to start before people are conscious of these problems, as it was in the past. i myself was subject to these things. not as much as the children of today and many other teenagers my age. through music, through media, through finding ways to entertain our kids wihtout these destructive technologies. through making large venue thigns cheaper, less restrictive. through showing the imporance of certain values. personally i want to be a musician to spread the music, a politition to change the laws, and a published philosopher to spread the message. what do YOU want to do?
I'm going to sell my TV. We need to stop wasting our time with television. Either the negetivity and bias of news, or the distraction of regular programing (fuck, there's even a show CALLED "Distraction"! They're not even faking it anymore), it's all bad, it warps your mind, makes you lazy and unsure of yourself. We need to turn off the TVs, the internet, the radio. We need more meditaters, more people writing, meeting together and getting serious, not just drinking or doing drugs, which is about all kids do these days when they hang out. I said turn off the internet. In a sense, it's great how we can reach so many people with blogs or email lists or whatever, but at the same time, we need to get together and BE with people. It's still isolation if youre communicating on the net, and what's more, it's just talking. We need to form or join clubs, groups (including school clubs), maybe some independant newspapers or some way of getting the message out. The problem is, it's hard to start a movement, and I'm not sure anyone knows how to. Yes, there's a lot of discontent out there, and sometimes a man with a message can enact a mass movement, but generally, he's not starting it, just giving it form. We need critical mass, but it's hard to do with everyone drugged out on their TVs and money, worried, scared all the time. Were they scared in the 60s about speaking their minds? Maybe. But they harnessed that energy and did positive with it, rather than sit at home every night working on their next heart attack. We also need goals. We know what we don't want...do we know what we do want? Where do we want to take this social reform? We need a manifesto, so to speak.
yer i dunno, maybe television should just not be abused like it is? I watch it every now and then if an interesting program is on or a movie i want to watch but i can never relate to people whenthey walk about shows they watch caus i stopped watching television religiously about 3 years ago now i think. now im a computer bitch though. A man said something very wise today. He was saying how old people often talk about how the younger generation have shit attention spans. but then he pointed out that our generation is able to concentrate on a much more diverse range of things or concepts at once, like playing video games or flicking around web pages or television channels or using multiple technologies at once. he made the observation that the newewr generations simply have different attention spans. i wonder if THIS is what should be investigated and exploited for the good of the world?
I dunno, because such a change as we're talking about (social reform) needs commitment, but our age group's attention spans are too short. Yeah, they can multi-task, but they can't stay focused on one thing for long enough. Instant gratification, that's what our generation is all about. Social change isn't instant.
well maybe we need to find a way to get instant gratification in a way that premotes peace and social harmony? maybe if everyone had sex haha
Bill, people already are smoking weed and having sex. In a sense, both are distractions. Like, "hey, if you want to be happy, go smoke some weed and screw...don't change society." Not that there's anything wrong with sex or weed, haha. There's just no way around it; we have to get away from instant gratification and learn to focus on long term, important goals.
