Why cant we just leave people alone?

Love dwells in all of us, we all have Buddah in us, we all want the same things in life. Love, peace and harmony, a home and a family. We all want our kids to have better lives then what we had. We are all on this planet together and have equal rights to be who we are as long as we HARM NONE. When we cast our own self created rules for everyone else to follow but our selves we create a vacume of our own egoness where only self rains. We are then blinded to our purpose here to learn and grow. As we condem others we are thereby condeming ourselves, for we are part of the ALL. How we chose to live our lives sets an exsample for others. If your going to talk the talk, you need to know how to walk the walk too.
I ask you Gate. What lurks in your mind. What brings you here to shoot us down. What purpose do you serve for the betterment of the ALL consciousness. What gifts do you bring to the table of LOVE LOVE LOVE and precious Light. If you are discontent then the answer lays within your self. What changes do you need to make in your life. How can your post help to guide and enlighten, or even say a compassionate word to help your fellow man. If your not part of the solution, your part of the problem.
Why dont we try to constructively come to an meeting of minds and find a solution to all this bickering. Everyone is part of the ALL.

 

I have no hate,I simply disagree.The hippies were a youth movement.Sorry,we got old.We're set in our ways.We have scars from the way we lived and have the paranoia to back them up.Our parents were no different,yet this is what we struck out against.We are now them.We romantisize living on haight,in my case telegraph,to these kids yet in reality it was a tough life.We're perpetuating the myth.We need fresh thoughts,not old reteric.

 

There are no fresh thoughts, every thought has been thought time and time again over the eons. I have yet to hear an origanal idea or thought in forever. The kids now days ask the same questions that we did at their age, it's harmones. It's a natural occurance. You think that wanting change is new, it's not, it has been the way of things since time began.
If you don't think yourself a hippie, that's fine and dandy, but don't speak for the ones of us that still hold true to our beliefs. You take power that isn't your's to take. I'm and OLD HIPPIE and I'll be one till I die and then I'll see what is what and can have a say in what I experienced. That my friend you can't ever take away from me.
I don't even know why I'm having this conversation with you. I can't see any light in it.
Brightest Blessings Gate. Live and Grow.

 

And yet you wish to speak for those of us who are. I have noticed the majority of your posts have a negative tone gate68. Now I know why.

 

Your are completely and uderly right, jim morison once said that most parents make their kids change and conform to their liking. This is concidered murder of ones true personality.

 

I agree completely...I think my dad is finallly coming around...Today he said "I see you really believe in all of this hippy stuff, and that's fine. I think you're finding yourself." I never thought I'd hear that from him

 

happy,happyjoyjoy.If you think the truth is negative so be it.What's the word the kids use,posers.

 

sounds like he only wants you to be true to your heart...good dad

 

Freedom of thought, debate of ideas however differing... I think maybe that is something that needs to be injected onto the political system, end this one party domination, it just acts like a swing I think, back and forth never really getting anywhere. proportional representation I think they call that?

 

Parents are people too. As parents, I belive that we all want the best for our kids. It's like me n hubby are 'longhairs' but two of our youngest boys decided to shave their heads, as down in these parts it's conciderd cool by the younguns. Me n hub were mortified.( they both had exelent hair). Well I can't say the youngest was compleatly bald, he did have what looked like a roosters comb type thingy going down the center of his head. My hubby was so shocked he almost lost it. I mean it was like,OMFG. Who is this skin head that just walked in the door. Hubby almost stroked out.
As I look back on it now, it's kinda ironic. We longhaired hippies we making a statement, and now it had come back to haunt us. The Boys were making a statement too. the opposit of what we were. It's really funny if you think about it.
It's like, Hey I'm going to rebel reguardless of what I'm rebeling against.
We do the best we can. We were blessed with six kids and raised several nephews. We have learned to roll with the punches that life throws you. We lost two lovely daughters, one to Cystic Fibroses and one to Diabeties, we lost them two yrs apart. Amy(25) in 2000 and Terri(27) in 2002.
We learned and we grew out of pain. We learned that life is so short and anything can and probably will happen. We learned that each of us are here for a different purpose and our journeys takes us many places and shows us many sides to the facets of life. We got use to the hair, or lack of. We loved them anyway. We may not have understood why they thought that blad was groovy, but it was their choices to make.
I guess it's because their hair was the only thing that they could control. It being all they really possesed. We leaned to live with it, like our parents learned to live with our shaggy hair, patched up jeans and our bandanas.
I'm just saying life is a cycle. There is nothing new under the sun. Bless us ALL

 

i like to tell people my opinions so they can get a wider view of things than just what they think and i like it when people tell me their opinions. if i end up agreeing with them i dont see it as being changed to fit someone's mold i see it as being enlightened by that person.

 

er Gate, if you were/are not a Hippie, then what scars do you bare. I'm all grown up, yet here I sit with the same values and beliefs I held when I was 16. More defined now and purposeful. But basicaly the same person I was back then. Hippies don't change into non hippies, not true ones. We remain the same, our Spirits move us to be so.
I don't think that you, gate should be teaching the younguns about hippies as you my friend are not one. Teach what you know. You don't know what the hippie is our what it is all about, or you wouldn't post the things you do. I'm being judgemental here, but I can't help it. It's my opinion and I'm intitaled to it. Yes your intitaled to yours too, but it seams to me like you would want to be in a place of agreement and not a place where YOU don't agree with what's going on. Like if you were a biker sitting in a Buddist Monistary OUT OF PLACE. Dig.

 

What's wrong with a biker at a monistary?Maybe it's that i'm not in with the in crowd.I could say that i was a dog,but that doesn't make me one.I remember the sit-ins at the city council meetings in Berkely,the strikes in Santa Barbara.A bunch of hippies in a place where they didn't agree with what was going on.Where were you,sitting on hippie hill partying or cooking meals for some celebrity?If that's all it takes to be a hippie,more power to you.

Actually i've overcome my scars,it took work,but i returned to the place where i lived on the street for an education.I must admit i didn't finish but that was my fault.

 

What I should have used as a refference is more like a Black person at a White Supreamancy Rally.
The celebs as you call them were the ones that brought us our music. Good Grief Gate, I don't understand you. I'm trying to. That's why I'm still on this thread. f your not here for the love or the good of the ALL, what brings you here. Are you here just to get the kids trust, I see you usually just hang in the younger crowd. That worries me. As there are all kinds of predators out there that preys on the innocents of youth.
What do you bring to the table Gate??

 

Gate you think that Hippie Hill was a vacation spot..lol.. guess you never been there. That's where It ALL started. That's where the Diggers,the Merry Pranksters the Mime Troupe were. That's where the Human-Be-Ins began. That's where the rallys were held, there and Panhandle Park. That's where we sat and protested till we were beaten bloody and dragged off the City Prison. What, you think Berkely was the only place. Berkely was, to me, more of the politcial Hippies. Most of the collage students still lived at home and not on the streets. Thay were not at street level. Were you in collage at Berkely or just a hanger on type wanna be. I'm not accusing, just asking where your coming from, cuz I don't know.

 

USNDH, As for your original post, I will respond.

On this site, and in real life, a lot of times people ASK for advice, "WHY is this happening, what did I do wrong, WHAT can I do to fix it?" Then, when someone who knows what is going on says "Yep, you fucked up, here's where, and here is some ideas on what you can do to help the situation." They get "Fuck you, I'll do what I want!" or "No I can't do that, it won't work." OR "My problems have nothing to do with what I did, they are beyond control, so stop giving me advice." OR "My sil tried that, and it didn't work." or somesuch bullcrap. Of course ALL of these replys are bullshit. Many people fuck up their own lives, then ASK for help, and then attack the very person who they ASKED to help them. What many of these people want is someone to say, "NOTHING is your fault, your life IS beyond your control. NOTHING you can do, of your own effort will fix the problem. Just give up and blame others." WHAT do you do with people like that?

 

What's all this talk about merit and credibility? What do you mean by street level? A hippie is not a true hippie until leaves the home and has to live on the streets? I know you didn't mean that but what then. I think it's good to have good relationship with the parents and family. There is strong ties. Not good for everyone's nature to live on street..

 

I was on the street(telegraph) at 16 and later went back briefly on a math scholarship(It didn't last).Before that I lived in a treehouse in Solona beach and had spent time in a religious commune in Morro Bay(roanoak)and the lighthouse in eureka..Went to J.C. in costa mesa while living in a camper.The cops there knew me and left me alone.Also while in berk i would stay at "the land"in palo alto,free property supplied by joan baez for all to use.Beautiful place,but closed minded people living there.They had theirs and didn't want to share.As far as political,I think stanford was more so than Berkley.

"As there are all kinds of predators out there that preys on the innocents of youth."
I haven't been insulted until now,that's way out of line.

 

If more black people went to white supremacy rallies it might help.Imagine the Million man march at a klan meeting.What if Rosa Parks had just sat at the back of the bus???

 

Diogenes,
I was refering to the ones that come and blast us old hippies, saying things like there are no hippies. MOST of the hippies I knew all started out on the street as they came pouring into the Haight. There were of course hippie from all walks of life, And that lived at home or where ever. I lived at 'home' now and again. I didn't have a problem with my parents. I was just 'called' to come. I came. I relate what I saw, heard and experienced.
I came to the forums here to help me with my book, I was searching for dates times and places, as it was the 60's and I did partake in the celabration. When I arrived here I though WOW, Cool. I thought hey here's a place I can fit in andshare what I have learned. I came in llove and peace.
I like to find out why, I like to talk, I am a woman ya know. I also have a need to help others. This site helps me GIVE as well as Take. I like to see what makes people tick and what drives them to do the things they do. I learn and I use what I learn to help others find themselves through the Spiritual Enlightenment, or the persuit of such. I am a seeker of truth and light. I have a tendancy to pick things aprat to find what truns the wheel. It is my nature to do so. I give my honest op on the things I encounter. I am stuck out here ( loving it) with no outlet for the knowledge I'm in care of. I am to spread it and teach what I have learned, like we all are. Take it or leave it, your choice. It's all about choices and why we make them. But I think that we ALL should DO NO HARM or harm will come to us. (Blah Blah blah) We each have our own path.