Update: Greg Haidl Guilty in Orange County Rape case. There finally is justice!

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by dotadave, Mar 23, 2005.

  1. dotadave

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    I post a thread about this case last year. This kid is the spoiled brat son of a wealthy and influential sherrif. His daddy had gotten him out of trouble before and narrowly got away with this brutal rape after the first case was a mistrial.

     
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    WHY WOULD ANYBODY LET ALONE A WOMAN APPOLOGIZE FOR THIS?????

    I had this conversation with a female I know from hot or not.

    [01:42] StilanasFlm: Heard the news about that rape case in orange county?
    [01:42] friend: I'm jk
    [01:42] StilanasFlm: The fuckers are going to jail for a long long time
    [01:42] friend: ... I'm 40 minutes from the OC
    [01:42] friend: of course I have
    [01:42] friend: I feel bad for them
    [01:42] friend: they are the fuckers
    [01:43] friend: she's the stupid underaged drinker
    [01:43] StilanasFlm: why do you feel bad for them?
    [01:43] friend: she put herself in the position and she was ok with it at the time
    [01:43] StilanasFlm: true but that doesn't excuse shoving a pool cue up her vagina while shes passed out and then getting his dad to bail him out
    [01:43] friend: believe me I was raped at 16 dead drunk it was my fault
    [01:43] friend: I put myself in that position
    [01:44] friend: she should just be glad she didn't get any diseases not send some guys to jail for being idiots
    [01:44] StilanasFlm: I don't think anybody deserves rape, sure its better to take precaustions but its not like men have to worry about being violated like that
    [01:44] StilanasFlm: they were a little more than idiots
    [01:44] friend: guys are guys there retards girls shouldn't oput themselve in that position and for doing that it's her fault
    [01:44] StilanasFlm: why would you tape something like that?
    [01:45] friend: .... also my guy friend has been raped by another guy because he was drunk
    [01:45] friend: so don't say guys don't have to sworry about it
    [01:45] StilanasFlm: its not as big of a risk
    [01:45] StilanasFlm: I blame the offender completely
    [01:47] friend: whatever I Don't yes video taping was wrong but she probaly said "ok"
    [01:47] StilanasFlm: why would you appologize for that though? Does drinking imply consent to be molested so brutally? can't a girl go out an have fun?
    [01:47] friend: you dirnk with people you know or you don't get hammered
    [01:47] friend: that's the way a girl doesn't get hurt most likely and that's her fault she got hammered with strangers
    [01:48] friend: a girl can go out and have fun but why not have friends to watch you and get so drunk it's not fun anymore
    [01:48] friend: puking and passing out and not knowing good from bad is not fun
    [01:48] StilanasFlm: perhaps, but it doesn't imply consent. They stuck a pool cue and a glass bottle up there for christ sake
    [01:49] friend: both were to blame but the guys shouldn't go to jail for it
    [01:49] StilanasFlm: and there were several of them and none of them said any thing
    [01:49] StilanasFlm: what do they deserve?
    [01:49] friend: well I Dunno but I still think she shouldn't have got hammered at a strangers place
    [01:49] friend: she put herself there they just did retarded things they were probaly drunk as well and being retarded
    [01:50] friend: plus she's 16!
    [01:50] friend: why is she out getting hammered at a strangers don't her parents know where she's at?
    [01:50] friend: why isn't she getting in truble for that?
    [01:50] StilanasFlm: because she is a kid
    [01:50] friend: so I was a kid?
    [01:51] friend: I did that it was my fault but you know what? I didn't put myself in that bad of a situation as she did
    [01:51] friend: she's a kid precisely why she shouldn;t be drinking
    [01:52] StilanasFlm: she shouldn't be drinking and she is guilty of that, and for being irresponsible, but not for being raped
    [01:52] friend: how can you defend her wreckless attitude and not theirs?
    [01:53] friend: there both wrong and there was more of them then her but she still counted as one of them because she was there and just in the same mindset as them if not more not there then them
    [01:54] friend: I'm not saying she deserved rape I'm saying they don't deserve jail
    [01:54] StilanasFlm: their reckless attitude was malicious
    [01:54] StilanasFlm: it was monsterous what they did to another human being
    [01:54] friend: people are stupid when they're drunk
    [01:54] StilanasFlm: the girls crime was upon herself
    [01:54] StilanasFlm: people are stupid when they are drunk but if they were to step into a car, and hurt somebody that is no excuse
    [01:55] friend: they don't deserve to spend the rest of there lives in jail .... they deserev counseling just liek her and made where they can't get alcohol
    [01:55] StilanasFlm: besides, I've been drunk off my ass before and the thought of doing something like that has never crossed my mind
    [01:55] StilanasFlm: they're getting like 15 years I think
    [01:56] StilanasFlm: not life
    [01:56] StilanasFlm: and they're red lettered as sex offenders
    [01:56] friend: ...
    [01:57] friend: the judges is known for giving sex offenders the maximum punishment -_-
    [01:57] StilanasFlm: the max punishment is still not life
    [01:57] StilanasFlm: its like 29 years
    [01:57] friend: .... he has sent someone to jail for 119 years for raping a girl
    [01:58] friend: there was like 4 guys in that one and he send them each there for that
    [01:58] StilanasFlm: good
     
  4. sugrmag

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    Wow. I remember seeing this story earlier this year on 48 hours or something. I'm glad they got it this time.

    Sure the girl made some poor choices, but she was passed out obviously according to the guys' video (nice of them to provide the evidence!) and they raped her. She had no way to consent.
     
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