Are todays men less masculine?

Man, do we need George now!!

 

A trillion here, a trillion there and, pretty soon, even genocide becomes acceptable, and their own mamas will donate a tiny fraction of their money to charity.

 

I don't know that many men to know if they are statistically less masculine. I do know there are less men today, thanks to Vietnam, crime, drugs, alcohol, wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, gangs, thugs, and such.

 

This is anecdotal, and my experiences are limited to my little area of America, but as someone who's around college aged men every day, I wouldn't say they're any less masculine than they were when I started dating over 30 years ago. I've seen and talked with young men who chop wood, go hunting, rough it in the wilderness, and I've been hiking, fishing, camping with quite a few of them. They still get into physical altercations, fight over girls, over money etc, if you call that masculine. Most of them still work jobs or desire to. But they are different in many other ways. Socially especially. They don't do the macho/alpha tough guy stupidities like some I used to see do, and they are much more sensitive about various issues that many didn't seem to be aware or care about until maybe the past 10+ years. They are more acutely aware of injustices, be it from corporations or whatever, they are rebelling against it and I don't think that's a bad thing. It's just a different take on what the hippies of the 60s did. That depends on, of course, how you define what makes a man masculine, but they are much the same in that many still hide or are less likely to discuss their feelings, they're still one track minded and geek out over their passions, but I rarely see anything that's more feminine about them than what I've seen before, rather I think technology has changed not just the young men but women as well.. Behavior wise, just from what I'm seeing in general, they tend to stay inside more, have addictions to video games, cell phones and similar. But I guess that's not really different from the guys who used to always be in a garage, under the hood of their car all the time, either. I used to date guys like that, all their hobbies basically became addictions to varying degrees. I don't believe that kind of stuff has anything to do with masculinity. The gender identities appear to be in the minority and I see more young adults that will respect their identity and leave it at that, whereas it seems that only people closer to my age have issues with it. I also see fewer dead beat dads that run from child support than they did when I was young but again, that's anecdotal, I don't have any statistics.

Basically what I see is that social norms has been gradually changing year after year since I started leasing rooms to university students. Technology certainly is the likely factor and will continue to do so. The problem is older people, like me, have trouble adapting. I still do and say things that some young adults see as “toxic” or what have you. I'm a cougar and my personal relationships primarily revolve around those that I'm around, and I've been made aware that some of my behaviors and things I say are “outdated” to put it mildly. Some complaints I get are for things like not answering texts right away, or coming off as passive/aggressive etc, but social expectations have always been in flux and has nothing to do with one's masculinity nor femininity.

 

Incellism. Gen xers wouldn't be caught dead speaking incel, red pill bullshit. It's deplorable. Today's losers demand equal rights for losers by taking away women's autonomy. The situation is ripe for Nazi takeover.

 

Pink Sky
This is a very insightful opinion and you’ve articulate your thoughts very well.
I agree that there are a few young men that I know that enjoy the same things I did when I was their age. They occasionally spend time with us older guys but usually go off to be with people their own age before the end of the day, just as we would do.
I agree tech has caused a huge shift in social behavior.
As an older male that grew up in a surf/skate culture in the 70s I’m having a hard time understanding why kids / young adults communicate with messaging instead of just calling and talking for example. I grew up without cell phones and wonder how these kids would survive without them. Verbal communication is a very important part of life and it appears that not too many younger folks are communicating that way any more.
The world is changing so fast. I do think that all people are becoming too dependent upon technology without learning or preparing how to survive without it, which is one of the biggest difference between the social norms of then and now . Everything is so convenient that you really don’t need to leave the house very often.
There’s an app for that.

 

The self-awareness in this is awesome. And that's the problem with our generation, self-awareness. That's something these younger generations go to war for. They don't condone hypocrisy and we come from an era of bullshitters, haha. It's impressive you're managing to keep up socially, I wonder how you do it

 

thank you for several good paragraphs,
Pink Sky

 

Men are less masculine than ever do a few factors like Smartphone/technology/Social media, lack of social skills and interpersonal dialogues amongst colleagues and of course third wave feminism amongst the women which could lead to disastrous behaviors. Im not anti feminist, theres some good parts about it like Women being able to get jobs, provide for their kids, vote and take care of themselves etc but a lack of traditional values as it seems have led to the some bad repercussions in terms of gender relationship dynamics amongst the sexes.

 

Traditional values eh?

 

Yes, it seems that there’s a lack of Brotherhood amongst Men these days because there’s a lack of God or Love Consciousness within society. You should know by now that every dude have a calling and a spiritual purpose to fulfill and one of the biggest distractors of all that is the pursuit of pvssy and vain beautiful women. We got things like Porn Hub these days, women dressing scantily clad in Yoga studios and all that stuff. When a Man is chaste and pursuing noble goals and relying on God and his brothers around him for his contentment, then he is a free man. With this state of mind, a Man can freely choose the right type of woman of quality for him and is able to screen out the goods from the bad. We need to promote this type of brotherly camaraderie to get our communities rolling again:

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/MGWWp5ixrcU?si=YhJMI2JT4I3S1qBX

 

Oh I see. You’re blaming others for your own problems. What “ god” are you referring to? How does MY pants impact YOUR manliness? I think you’re on the wrong site.

 

Lol, Im pretty conservative in my views but decided to sign up and be open minded at some of the good hearted people got to say around here. Who knows maybe I can learn a thing or two to get educated on some matters. Just think of me as that odd uncle who sits down at a family dinner on special occasions, mildly interesting, just not a blabber mouth and introspective lol.

And I do not blame every day people for my problems, we are all responsible for our contentment and way of life. But things would be a lot easier if there would be a return of modesty, less self gratification and more volunteering for your every day Man out there.

With that also in mind, cleaning up our environments, planting more trees and taking care of our animals is icing on the cake.

 

I’d still like to hear why women wearing yoga pants is harmful in any way? That’s more than conservative. What next? Women can’t wear pants? Wear makeup? Show their faces?

 

It's good to have equal rights within all the sexes. But there has to be Gender harmony, an understanding of the sexes role within a relationship. Though there might be some subcultures out there, which is understandable, for the most part plain heterosexual relationships require harmony and an understanding of each other's roles. For example you might say to think to yourself, ' that guy over there is cute and I know he likes me, maybe I should flat out approach him like a dude', that would go against your natural tendency as a woman correct? Or how let's not forget how you know for a fact that most women prefer the man to keep escalating the interaction within a romantic relationship correct?

Therefore, with this in mind, there is nothing wrong with Yoga pants, that was a figure of speech and an example. But the Decent men throughout the world are asking a return to modesty, and modest laws that caters to good Men who have been divorced or seperated from their wives. There has to be a sense of balance and understanding of the roles in a heterosexual relationship for Society to function right and it all begins with a promotion of Love and God Consciousness amongst Men.

 

We strongly disagree on your definition of “ decent men”.

“ modesty laws” !?! What the actual F.

 

According to Google and everyone else, the younger generation now have the decision-making capacity of chickens. So, unless you equate stupidity with masculinity, yes, they less masculine.

 

this is BS too.

 

No, its actually true, and everything I write is base on the facts. For the last ten thousand years, the wealthy and powerful have been forcing academia to help them divide and conquer their own population. Its all based on stupid playground bully taboos, against ever allowing anyone to use any words or jokes you don't approve of, and its actually quite routine in any modern culture. They censor their own population so badly, so they never present a problem for them.

Which is why Donald Duck is now emperor of the world. Either the younger generation claims their own right to share their words and play nice, or the wealthy will continue to eat them alive.