SCOTUS stops the election interference....cold!

Of course not. But a conscious human is treated differently from a conscious rabbit or squirrel. People shoot the latter and eat them for dinner, and they don't get tried for murder for it. We could argue about whether or not that makes any sense.. I do have empathy for animals, and don't like to see them suffer or die, but humans make the rules. As Brown University Kenneth Miller puts it in The Human Instinct: "We are the best and brightest things we know, and it is for us to set the terms by which we address existence and define the meaning of our lives." Human opinions are important in deciding when life begins. Six in ten Americans support abortion during the first trimester. That drops to less than one-third in the second and only 13% in the third. Trimesters Still Key to U.S. Abortion Views Even under Roe, abortions could be prohibited in the third trimester, and only seven states allow it with no restrictions. My rationale pretty much coincides with that pattern. In a situation where a national abortion ban is favored by a presidential candidate and his party, we have to be careful where we draw the line, and explain why we're willing to permit abortion as late as the end of the second trimester.

 

I think that it is time to wake up. Forcing unfortunate women who make a mistake should not be doomed to be in poverty for the rest of their lives. Overpopulation will bring starvation and extinction to the entire world human population. There have been over 2,000 babies born in Palestine since the October War began. This pitiful territory is a permanent welfare state funded by the United Nations. The problem is "RELIGIONS" that advocate producing children, who have no hope of thriving. In the U. S. Less than one third of the population regularly attend Church, Temple or Mosque. Why this minority is allowed doom the rest of us to predation by unwanted offspring. This country was founded with the principles of individual freedom of religion and freedom from religion. We have to start listening to scientists and ignore religious morons who want to eliminate individual choice like what happened in 17th-19th century Europe. At the turn of the 19th century all British citizens were required by law to attend church services on Sundays. We are approaching the same level of madness now. Look what just happend in Louisiana. Rapturing in to heaven is a MYTH. When it is over, it is over.

 

What just happened in Louisiana?

 

The ozone hole scare just happened to coincide with the imminent expiration of the patent on R-22. I'm sure that was pure coincidence...not.

"Next time, bring a piece of sky with you."

 

Something happened in the sixties. That's how we know it's still happening today.

 

It's pretty well accepted that the "tiki torchers" were hired to carry out an operation.

 

Problem is that you have lumped some very real environmental issues like acid rain and ozone depletion with a word soup of conspiracy garbage. Reducing SO2 emissions made real progress on reducing acid rain. It wasn’t, just some trees, it was entire forests and inland lakes. Reducing fluorocarbon emissions has reduced the ozone issue

And reducing greenhouse gas emissions is a very real issue. I taught weather and climates the college level for 10 years and know the data sources and analysis protocols….why would any rational person believe the fossil fuel goons or their minions like T instead of the science? Bet you could pick up a ski area in the Midwest real cheap about now.

Science is based on real data and analysis and is subject to updating based on new information. Conspiracy trash is based on lies that enrich the few at the expense of all of us. Most lobbyists wouldn’t know the difference between rigorous time series analysis and rodent droppings.

 

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I listed what came to mind quickly. Those things were remembered over others because the outcomes were not what I was led to believe they would be. As to neglecting what the fear-mongers got right, I honestly don’t recall any. Given my imperfect memory, I’m very willing to accept that I’ve forgotten some things. The thing is, I don’t mind being wrong. Humans learn more by being wrong. Trial and error is far more educational than trial and success. Being incorrect or ignorant about something is not a sin. Plus, we have the span of our lives to remedy the matter, should we choose to.

You appear, to me, to have a deep need to not only be correct in all topics of discussion but to demonstrate this to others and then chastise them should they fail to recognize the truth of your pronouncements on any given matter. If I were limited to a lifetime of being incorrect or feeling and behaving as you appear to do, I would choose the former.

 

Haha, my wife would beg to differ with that last statement.

 

Ok. Maybe I AM clueless about this. But were they and they’re activities SO prevalent as we have been told they are, after all white supremacy is the biggest threat facing our nation, how are they hiding themselves and their activities so well from me? Why would they want to? Aren’t my at least maga-adjacent views (from what you tell me) likely to make me a good recruit? I’m of English heritage. No southern European admixture that I’m aware of. What gives? Why haven’t I been invited? More seriously though, why haven’t I ever seen these folks outside of a Hollywood production? I should at least see a bumper sticker or something? The news tells me the military is full of them. Four years active duty in the infantry (the army doesn’t get any whiter than the infantry btw) and no nazi chatter at all, even in the communal showers.

I’m wondering if this is why your side is losing us “normies”, as I’ve seen the partisans call us. For the early part of my life, the right wing seemed like the delusional fear-mongers. We just couldn’t take them seriously unless we were outraged by their desire for censorship. Now, the fear-mongering and calls for censorship come from the left. And, just as with the conservatives in the 80s, we think, “ wtf are you nut jobs whining about now?” And when you sheik and point at your threat-du-jour, we can’t help but roll our eyes and say under our breath, “drugs ur ba-ad, mm-kay.”

 

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The thing about Bocci is not just his wrong information but his obvious use of it to discredit information in general unless it's coming from his ass. He's conditioning us to accept his efforts to "flood the zone with shit", as Bannon would put it.

 

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Learning is good. The day we stop learning is the same day we should retire or crawl back under a stone.

So, what if someone writes something that's factually incorrect. Explain why that is so and then the reader will learn as will the OP who may have been wrong.
It's incumbent on the reader to validate anything they read. It's always been so.
I recall when review websites first appeared - or more accurately - when I first read some of the reviews.
I described the contributors often as being people whose ability to express an opinion was much greater than their ability to form one.
That's because there's no real discussion on review sites and their (those opinions) were clueless.
They didn't know how to rate an establishment and still, sometimes, they post.

Contrasting with that, here; we can discuss and disagree and even agree.
Instead of working towards a whose won and whose lost situation, (in terms of the discussion), let it be a learning environment for everyone.
We can all learn but whether, or not, we choose to is a matter for each of us.

What I don't do is; read something and hope I can believe it (or get annoyed when I can't believe it because it is factually incorrect) because that would just mean I am a follower and not a thinker, and expecting to be told what's what. I stopped being 'told' when I became adult. Since then I think for myself, I challenge/test and I inform myself.

Much better to challenge; to test the author; to make them think too; to learn and through dialogue and discussion, then take the issue forward to a new more intellectual place where, consequently, our individual and collective knowledge is improved.

 

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