The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. egger

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    Partial list of people Trump disposed after saying he hires only the best and most serious people.


    Donald Trump Struggles To Answer After Fox News Host Confronts Him On ‘Mistakes’

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    "Trump once claimed he would hire only “the best and most serious people,” but ultimately fired or attacked many of those very same people, including William Barr (attorney general), Jeff Sessions (attorney general), Rex Tillerson (secretary of state), James Mattis (defense secretary) John Bolton (national security adviser), H.R. McMaster (national security adviser) John Kelly (homeland security secretary and White House chief of staff), Mike Pence (vice president) and Kayleigh McEnany (press secretary), among others."
     
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    Trump Spent $10 Million From His PAC on His Legal Bills Last Year

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    "Mr. Trump spent some of the money on fruitless efforts to show widespread election fraud. He also used it to defend against various matters related to the attack on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob on Jan. 6, 2021. The PAC that Mr. Trump’s advisers set up allowed for general use of the money so long as it did not directly support a future candidacy.

    The single biggest payment that Mr. Trump made from the PAC money to a law firm last year — $3 million — went to the Florida-based law firm Critton, Luttier and Coleman, which is affiliated with Christopher M. Kise, a former solicitor general of Florida. Mr. Kise joined Mr. Trump’s team initially to take on the Mar-a-Lago documents case and he is now involved in defending Mr. Trump and his company in a fraud suit filed by the New York attorney general, Letitia James."
     
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    Three-judge panel of federal appeals court rules Trump doesn't have immunity from prosecution.


    https://www.npr.org/2024/02/06/1223904739/trump-immunity-ruling

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    "A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit has ruled that Donald Trump does not enjoy broad immunity from federal prosecution, a major legal setback for the former president who said he will appeal.

    They wrote that for the purposes of this criminal case, "former President Trump has become citizen Trump, with all of the defenses of any other criminal defendant.""
     
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    Gary Hart had planned to run in the 1988 presidential race. He dropped out.

    He didn't say grab women by the crotch. He wasn't found guilty of rape in a civil court. He didn't have a $5 and $83 million defamation judgment against him. He didn't have criminal charges against him related to funneling hush money to a porn star.


    Gary Hart - Wikipedia

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    "Hart declined to run for re-election to the Senate, leaving office when his second term expired with the intent of running for president again. On December 20, 1986, Hart was allegedly followed by an anonymous private investigator from a radio station where he had given the Democratic Party's response to President Reagan's weekly radio address. That alleged investigator report claimed that Hart had been followed to a woman's house, photographed there, and left sometime the following morning. This allegation would ultimately cause him to suspend his planned presidential campaign.[35] After Mario Cuomo announced in February 1987 that he would not enter the race, Hart was the clear frontrunner for the Democratic nomination in the 1988 election.[36][37]"
     
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    My, how standards have changed.:cool:
     
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    And now we wait to see what the Supreme Court says. If they are smart- they won’t touch it. If they do overrule the Court of Appeals decision- they will have turned this country upside down. Standing by…..
     
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    Let’s talk about Trump, appeals, and immunity….

    -Beau

     
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    Let’s talk about Haley, Trump and why she’s staying in….

    -Beau

     
  12. egger

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    It turns out that it did force Engoron to delay his ruling. It was unknown why he had delayed it. It was the issue with Weisselberg.


    https://www.salon.com/2024/02/06/tr...nswers-after-report-that-cfo-lied-under-oath/

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    "The New York Times reported last week that longtime former Trump Organization chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg is in talks with Manhattan prosecutors to plead guilty to perjury after a Forbes article discredited his claims about Trump’s inflated penthouse apartment value. Weisselberg was abruptly pulled from the stand in Trump’s fraud trial after the article was published.

    “As the presiding magistrate, the trier of fact, and the judge of credibility, I of course want to know whether Mr. Weisselberg is now changing his tune, and whether he is admitting he lied under oath in my courtroom at this trial,” Engoron wrote in an email to Trump’s legal team and the New York attorney general’s office."
     
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    Federal Appeals Court Rejects Trump’s Claim of Absolute Immunity

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    "The three judges cast Mr. Trump’s immunity claims as a danger to the nation’s constitutional system.

    “At bottom, former President Trump’s stance would collapse our system of separated powers by placing the president beyond the reach of all three branches,” they wrote. “Presidential immunity against federal indictment would mean that, as to the president, the Congress could not legislate, the executive could not prosecute and the judiciary could not review. We cannot accept that the office of the presidency places its former occupants above the law for all time thereafter.”"
     
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    The appeals court issued a 59-page scathing response to Trump.

    In a bad sign for Trump, the panel referred to the presidency as an office and the president as an officer.

    Trump's team will be trying to argue that the president isn't an officer in the 14th Amendment disqualification case which makes reference to officers being disqualified if they engaged in an insurrection. The U.S. Supreme is currently hearing arguments for that case.


    Takeaways from the scathing appeals court ruling denying immunity to Donald Trump | CNN Politics
     
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    Takeaways from the scathing appeals court ruling denying immunity to Donald Trump | CNN Politics

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    “We cannot accept former President Trump’s claim that a President has unbounded authority to commit crimes that would neutralize the most fundamental check on executive power — the recognition and implementation of election results,” the judges wrote. “Nor can we sanction his apparent contention that the Executive has carte blanche to violate the rights of individual citizens to vote and to have their votes count.”

    The panel describes Trump as using his seat of power to “unlawfully overstay his term as President and to displace his duly elected successor,” all which would violate “generally applicable criminal laws.”

    “Former President Trump’s alleged efforts to remain in power despite losing the 2020 election were, if proven, an unprecedented assault on the structure of our government,” the panel wrote.
     
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    All Trump did was try to have Pence killed if he didn't submit to his desire to throw the 2020 election back to the state legislatures or have the election outcome determined by the U.S. House.
     
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    JD Vance essentially says he would do a coup.

    Vance is auditioning to be VP for Trump.


    On New Year’s Day you missed Lake Erie shifting several feet in a natural phenomenon

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    “If I had been vice president, I would have told the states, like Pennsylvania, Georgia, and so many others, that we needed to have multiple slates of electors, and I think the U.S. Congress should have fought over it from there,” Vance said, referring to the fake pro-Trump electors that some states’ Republicans tried to send to Washington.

    “That is the legitimate way to deal with an election that a lot of folks, including me, think had a lot of problems in 2020. I think that’s what we should have done.”
     
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    An option for Trump: fire his attorneys


    What’s Trump’s next chess move? Firing his lawyers. | The Hill

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    "For a typical criminal defendant, firing your lawyers is a risky move. Not only is it expensive, it just delays the inevitable. But that’s not the case for Trump. Delay is the strategy to thwart the inevitable. If Trump can push his trials back enough and win back the presidency, he could force a new attorney general to drop the whole prosecution.

    If Trump ditches his legal team right before his March trial date, the judge will have little choice but to delay. Trump will need time to find a new legal team, and that team will need time to prepare for the trial. Could that mean a 90-day delay? Or 120 days?

    Actually, it could be a lot more. Once Trump finds that a new trick works, he always pushes the envelope. Expect Trump to be as slow as possible in finding new counsel."
     
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    What’s Trump’s next chess move? Firing his lawyers. | The Hill

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    "Firing the lawyers is Trump’s nuclear option. Judges Chutkan and McAfee have their own nuclear option: revoke Trump’s bail and remand for trial.

    The key for Trump is not just delaying trial but staying out of prison. If Trump is stewing in the stir, his electoral prospects are likely to diminish severely. Additionally, the prospect of sitting in a jail cell, subsisting on prison grub while lawyer after lawyer refuses his case, might be intolerable. Trump could make the decision he needs to get to trial and hopefully get out on bail during his inevitable appeal.

    For Chutkan and McAfee, Trump will surely provide legitimate grounds to revoke bail. Trump continues to be completely undisciplined, and nobody seems to be able to rein him in — or is willing to try. Trump’s mouth is his own worst enemy. The question is whether Chutkan or McAfee have the chutzpah to pull this move."
     

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