Israel Declares War on Hamas (bloodshed again)

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    You are most welcome, my friend!:)
     
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    ABC World News Tonight had excellent coverage on the War; David Muir is on the ground there, and gave several very interesting (and often heart-wrenching) reports; BBC corespondents Ian Pannel and James Longman (both of who provided outstanding reports from the Ukraine last year) also gave outstanding reports.

    One cannot help but truly feel for the citizens caught in the midst of all this conflict; the amount of destruction, devastation, ruin, and the suffering of a bloodied, weary, frightened people are beyond sobering and heartbreaking.

    Much was mentioned about transportation and communication being totally disorganized, the lack of power and water in many areas.......this is NOT living......but a living HELL for these people............so damn senseless.........
     
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    I've been hearing much via various news reports on the "mystery" of why Israeli intelligence failed to detect this oncoming mass slaughter?

    What went wrong?

    Whose was "asleep at the switch"?

    I learned from ABC World News Tonight earlier this evening that Haamas had been planning this attack for many months, now, carrying out all sorts of practice drills, to "get their act together", so to speak.

    One can only sctatch their head and wonder what MIGHT have played out, HAD the threat of an attack by Haamas been discovered.

    Alas, it's all too late now................


     
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    Those people who know politics are not politician, but those people who don't know politics are politicians! It is a fact, it is not a joke, so the destination of many nations are in the hands of these foolish politicians.
    After the ending of the World War II when more than six millions Jewish were killed, the European governments decided to establish a Jewish country to support them as a new nation. The idea was perfect but who had to pay the price? Palestinian people who had live for more than thousand years in this area had to pay! So the European gaverments established a new hot conflict zone for the further markets to sell their arms production for many years!!
    No body does care about the people no matter Jewish, Christian, or Muslim, they care just to their business.
     
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    Many people, I am sure, have no idea of just how complex and intricate Jewish history (and faith) truly is; not only that, but many more than likely wonder WHY anti-Semitism, as ugly as it has always been (and always will be) has suddenly made a vicious, and violent comeback during the past few years.

    WHY hate people of the Jewish faith?

    WHY hate people of the Muslim faith?

    WHY hate at all?

    I only wish that people would realize that it takes as much effort to HATE as it does to LOVE.

    Stupid, foolish, ignorant, supposedly "civilized" human beings.......
     
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    Anti Semitism is not the same as anti Jewish, Semitism is Israelian government's political party, so hateful feeling raises because of the government of Israeli not because of the Jewish. It is very important to distinguish these two facts. According to the Goran ( Muslim Bible ) Muslim belief in Christianity and Jewish so they respect these religious, and there is no reason to hate each other.
    If the governments leave their nations alone , there will not be any hate feeling and they will love each other.
     
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    When a nation expects war,it can, at least, be prepared for it.

    But, when it comes straight out of the blue like a bolt of lightning, intent on maiming, killing, and destroying without even the slightest warning, it is truly a nightmare one cannot awake from.

    In this bloody conflict, now just a few days old, there is so much complexity and "depth" involved; here, we have faith, religion, territorial claims, and heaven knows what else all further adding to this boiling cauldrom of destruction and death.

    Abductions, kidnappings, executions....what do they prove?

    What do they solve?

    What "message" are they trying to convey?

    What are they trying to prove....and to whom?

    So many around the world, including myself, believe that this violent war will be one that will drag on for weeks, months, perhaps even years.

    And, in the end (whenever that ever comes) what will be the "prize" secured by the victor?

    What spoils do they hope to reap?

    Too many terrifying echoes of the Ukraine, here....too many casualities, too much destruction, too much violence......and for what?

    What will "victory" hold for the vanquisher?

    None of us can answer a question of this formidable dimension............
     
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    Thank you. That means something despite everything, doesn't it? Thank you very much!

    Where are we now? Israel attacking Gaza? They should curtail the draw to show of force and focus on Hamas. Perhaps they are but our reporting is focused on bashing Palestine; another way to distort public perception of Muslims, and sadly effective in that regard. It's repugnant, and likely no one realizes what is happening as youth in New York at present align with Hamas, the only governance they've ever know to take action against human rights violations against Muslims in Palestine.

    Where are we now?? Today I looked at the news... a person jumped at the memorial at ground zero. Why? I cannot begin to guess.

    What I ended up discovering was the intended meaning of the monument by its designers, "Reflecting on Absence".

    I think what is truly needed is for the worlds people to be informed. We must be strong! Not only for our families who lost their fathers and sons, and their mothers, daughters, husbands and wives (it's hard to imagine losing the person closest to me, and that is what happened to so many), but also for Islam and the multitude of innocents who are now categorically labeled as extremist, if not directly then subliminally with every passing day as people misunderstand.

    We must be strong enough to preserve the true identity of our people; Muslim, devoted to faith in God, impassioned to live according to His decree, and free from persecution due to misunderstanding generated by extremism, hatred, and proverbial cannibalism, as ultimately the victims are Muslims whose identities are stolen and tarnished by violence and anger.

    I think we have forgotten that it's devotion that brings us to remember. Our families lost we strive to remember. And honestly it is Muslims who are forgotten; their prayers lost in the cacophony of life moving in the wrong direction.

    Related: Apparently this is what happened: Horrifying moment man slips into 'void' of 9/11 reflecting pool (msn.com)
     
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    Its too bad the the Abraham Accords were not recognized in Gaza.
     
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    Such interesting comments, relaxx.

    That is irrelevant to anyone hoping to see a resolution. Looking backwards doesn't work.
    "An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind" - (a quote from someone or other).

    Never proven to work because it's rubbish.
    Islam does not create militants any more than the Catholic Church created the IRA.
    However, some militants may be considered followers of a religion or pigeon-holed as such, whether accurate or not.

    Who's sick in the head?!

    Palestinians are not militant or terrorist despite militants living amongst them.

    Israel has the power (it has demonstrated that over recent years) so that begs the question....: with Israel holding the power, why not use it to achieve peace?!
    Division sustains poor leadership. Those without compromise cannot be good leaders so they cause division to retain power.

    That region won't be at peace until they agree to live alongside each other and they both share the burden of the necessary compromises.
    Such compromise will be very difficult but where there's a will, there's a way.

    They should learn from the Ireland conflict too - though less bloody, the principles are similar.
    Also; it never was the case that all the Irish were militant and equally so, not all Palestinians/Muslims are militant.

    There's been a lot of criticism of the uk media (at least) on social media over their use of the term 'militant', instead of terrorist.
    They are militants.
    To say they are terrorist is an emotive judgement call from one side of the equation.
    The other side may refer to them as freedom fighters.
    Both terms (terrorist/freedom-fighter), are equally offensive to the opposing side and form another obstacle to a peaceful future.

    So, to retain impartiality in their reporting, the media is correct to use the term 'militant' though I think combatants would work equally well.
     
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