Why does everyone believe in conspiracy theories nowadays?

Oh yes, a constant source of terror in america by our own government.

 

Sucker for conspiracy theories? Seriously?
I suppose I could call you a sucker for conspiracy theories too, since the government always presents their 'CONSPIRACY THEORY' that you seem to sucker for.

I guess we SUCKER for 'DIFFERENT' conspiracy theories eh, but we both sucker for conspiracy theories. A court case simply confirms the obvious, 'maybe', at least within the example I stated.

Now that you bring court up faurrison took the holocaust to court in france and the judge determined and opined the holocaust was impossible, stated it in the court records. So if thats your measuring stick the holocaust does not exist and everything you think you know about hitler is wrong. Now what? lol

 

In Post #100, I discussed the cultural and social causes of conspiracy theories. Post 101 is a good segue into the psycho-pathological factors contributing to the phenomenon.
Why Do People Believe in Conspiracy Theories?
The Psychology of Conspiracy Theories - PubMed
"What about building 7?" A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories - PubMed
Why do people believe in conspiracy theories?
Half of Americans Believe in 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
9/11 was an Inside Job | The Psychology of Extraordinary Beliefs
Why Do People Believe in Conspiracy Theories?
Why Do People Believe in Conspiracy Theories?
Conspiracy Theories and Human Psychology
9/11 Conspiracy Theories: Why Do So Many People Believe It Was A Hoax?
the psychology of conspiracy theories - Yahoo Video Search Results
the psychology of conspiracy theories - Yahoo Video Search Results
the psychology of conspiracy theories - Yahoo Video Search Results
That should hold us for awhile.

 

I responded, its very simple why people believe in non government sanctioned conspiracy theories. as someone said because they are all too often true!

Why? Its simple and I repeat:




see the trend direction?

Such a positive outlook for america!

Now as the over 60 (TV news media dependency) gen dies off you can expect that number to take a nose dive.

 

I'm gonna chip in here....

A ha; it's not like conspiracy theorists put stuff into the public domain or anything: presenting it in such a way that seems to some convincing and which the general public could never disprove.

There's nothing wrong with conspiracy - check the dictionary - because we all conspire to do stuff, whether that's to meet friends at the movies or to do a project at work or to prank a friend.
If we qualify the term 'conspiracy' such that it relates to a crime - a criminal conspiracy - then that conspiracy may, in itself, be a crime.
If a crime is committed and it involved >1 person then, potantially, it's a criminal conspiracy.

If the police gather evidence pre-trial and formulate their case against one or more individuals, it's not a conspiracy theory or any type of theory.
Being evidence-based (subject to the police doing the right thing), it's an alleged conspiracy.

If some eejit looks at an event and then works backwards, to try to formulate a reason for that event and, in doing so, conflates two or more separate unconnected (and usually spurious) issues, to state what actually happened; that is a theory, a conspiracy theory - an actual load of bull.

my 2c.

 

true in concept FALSE in function!

You get your democracy when you elect your new dictators every few years and even that is fake since all the voting machines are so easily hackable, and they refuse to put in a totally secure voting system. In fact they went the opposite direction and gave us several magnitudes less less security.

You hire a representative jurist when you hire a lawyer and you ultimately have say so in how that jurist conducts your business.

When you elect a jurist for government you forfeit control, and you dont forfeit it to the majority you forfeit it to the jurist you elected. They take over from there.

We only need look as far as roe versus Wade where 63% of all Americans are against the government putting themselves inside our uterus!

So much for representing our democracy!

What was the last law you got to vote on in this 'representative democracy'? LOL

 

well the problem is a lot of people have the ability to sniff out a rat but not the ability to prove it.

Take the case of 911 where a person has to be multidisciplinary in order to even comprehend what happened much less defend a position contrary to the government's conspiracy theory.

As it turned out that's exactly what had to be done, world trade 7 had to be reverse engineered and close to a half a million dollars was spent to have a forensics high-rise PhD work with a couple of students to completely model the building only to find that nist lied on at least four to five counts and of course that's what it takes to bust the government is a lot of money.

As a result it's now in the Northeast district Court in New York, and despite having the proof that the whole thing was a farce it has to be proven in court which is entirely different than getting to the truth. We the people have the truth, but due to such high liabilities involved due to the fraud perpetrated on the people of this nation I sincerely doubt it'll ever make it through Court.

So there's a big difference between a bar room conspiracy theorist and an academic conspiracy theorist.

 

Do you agree with democracy?

I now sense your allegiance.

Poppycock!

You've made so many assertions in this thread that I nearly thought you knew what you were talking about. I was wrong.
FYI: If you hire a lawyer, you are in control. You ask for advice, they advise and, based on that advice, you instruct.

You really should choose more wisely, who you vote for.

When you next check the term 'conspiracy', take a look at the meaning of 'compromise'.

I don't have a link to hand but you should search the term "I don't understand democracy but it isn't what some lunatic told me it is".

 

So taking them from the top,

Duh. In a representative democracy, you vote for the people who make the laws.

 

This is really a great example of a conspiracy theory that the government made



Pretty much really says it all if you want to dissect everything and analyze it.

 

... and then they let their imagination run into overdrive.
If they sniff out a rat but can't prove it's a rat - is it a rat?

I don't put much faith in any of them if they profess to know all their subject, when they can't.
You seem not really to be au fait with what an academic is. Are you? They study; they research, they discuss with other such academics. They ensure their work is peer-reviewed.
That's a proper academic.
Then there's the one's who are commissioned, for significant payment, to provide a paper that may reach a specific conclusion to support a particular position. For ease; think Erin Brokovich or some of the tobacco companies.

 

So odd and here I thought we voted for representatives to represent US!

And I'd be excited to hear how they can represent us without referendums to know exactly what we think about the 70 million laws we now have on the books that we never got to vote on!

 

Apparently you didn't take notice that I brought up studies by phds.
Peer review is hardly a good measuring stick to measure anything by when there's a lot of money involved. Especially if it feeds their own industry. I certainly know that much about academics.

Then add to that as a consumer how do you know which academic is correct when there are contradicting peer reviews which we see all the time especially if you don't understand how to figure it out yourself?

Peer review has this magical sensation of fact when the actual fact is nothing could be farther from the truth, especially when licenses are at stake and your livelihood, meaning how are you going to feed your family if you run contrary to a government agenda, and get fired or are forced to retire like so many people did during the covid debacle.

911 a few people mysteriously turned up dead, that is ones that were qualified to testify against the government with firsthand knowledge!

 

Depends on what your definition of democracy is.

Allegiance what are you talking about? This has nothing to do with allegiance.

Yep you just agreed with me in the bolded part so I'm not sure what you're trying to say!

I haven't voted in years I haven't found a candidate that I actually want to vote for that I feel is qualified to run this country, and NO, I don't vote against the worst garbage to get a little better garbage. Garbage is garbage.

Well if you have some esoteric meaning for the word compromise that makes it applicable to the word conspiracy or the words conspiracy theory you better say it because I'm not going to look it up because as far as I'm concerned it's completely non secutur to the argument

well considering my actual sources compared to what you think my sources are I'm not going to waste my time, but if you have an actual point to make please feel free to make it and I'll be happy to discuss it with you

 

You never will. She's so vested in her theories that she uses confirmation bias to screen out any information that contradicts them and then spits out some bizarre retort that makes sense to her but nobody else. And feels superior about it. That's how it woks.

 

"It's official: The Corbett Report is fake news and the most unreliable source in the media. So says Le Monde and dozens of other "fake news checking" websites that are telling the masses what to think, and what they shouldn't even look at in the first place. Aren't you glad you're not one of the masses?"The Least Trustworthy Source in the Media? - The Corbett Report
This from the Corbett report itself. I think it gives us some insight as to why some people swallow it--because it makes them "special", "not one of the masses".

But just to give you some input from the other side:
"Overall, we rate the Corbett Report a Tin Foil Hat conspiracy and Moderate pseudoscience website, based on the promotion of 9/11 conspiracies, False Flags, Chemtrails, and Deep State conspiracies." https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-corbett-report/

 

It's not my fault MA spaced the argument again.

MA now seems to have changed that focus to 911 which is fine if you'd like but make a thread and let's do 10 rounds. It'll give you the opportunity to quote 10, 000 favorite opinions.

I simply made the distinction between a conspiracy theory, a conspiracy, and the perpetrators of a conspiracy.

Confirmation bias you say?

Sounds like words from someone thats in over their heads and can't find a good 'ad populum' fallacy style argument to rebut mine.

 

That's okay you can feel free to believe that Osama bin laden from his cave used his cell phone to infiltrate an orchestrate one of the most sophisticated attacks beyond anyone's imagination against the most highly defended secure country on planet with hot 100% success if you like!

All you did was quote somebody else's 'opinion' that agrees with you and you expect us to take that seriously