The Ukraine Crisis Part 1 The initial Battles

Exactly is all too late

The capital will be in Russian hands tonight when the main force have caught upto the forward screening elements already there

 

A recent vid-clip of civilians talking to Russian tank crews as they rolled past. Saying things like, "We speak Russian too, we have families in Russia, why are you in our country doing this?"

 

Yes, but even after Paris had fallen and the puppet Vichy government was in place, was when 'Le Resistance' got busy in the outlying areas.

 

Its getting them there though.

Any vehicle of Nato origin or aircraft dropping them will be seen as an act of war .

 

When the media dont get their facts right



Its not a flame thrower tank but a TOS 1A Sointsepjok Multiple Rocket launcher as pictured below

I fear that many of these will be used on the capital soon and they are very indiscriminate as to what they destroy . Very nasty

 

The Ukrainians are desperately short of good Anti Aircraft weapons as the Russians have Air Supremacy and what the Ukrainians do have are not effective enough as demonstrated here

 

Germany to send weapons
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In a major shift, Germany will send weapons to Ukraine (msn.com)

 

This sounds so MUCH like when Churchill was on a phone call with Roosevelt begging for aircraft to fight the Nazis.

Due to treaties, he could not send them. But he said, "If we take some to the Canadian border, they could come across and pull them back and them ship them to you."

Well, NATO Poland shares a border with Ukraine, right? How hard would it be to figure this out?

 

Technically that could be seen as an act of war as well ,as you would be allowing another countries military personell on your soil and technically sheltering them .

All this weapons malarky is all words to me for an individual countries PR . Its all too late

 

Sorry, wasn't clear on my idea.

"...would be allowing another countries military personell on your soil..."

How about 'ordinary civilians to cross an already open border, and drag back boxes?' No breaking of rules! Hell, even mark them as , 'tents, food, clothes'. This is apparently beyond the mentality of 'paper-pushers' and 'rule-book-readers'.

 

Dangerous because of our free press policy in the West. It they get wind of that it will be all over the Web .

I would also expect the border access to be closed up soon by the Russian military .

 

NATO:
Relations between Ukraine and NATO were formally established in 1992, - when Ukraine joined the North Atlantic Cooperation Council after regaining its independence, later renamed the Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council
NATO Response ?
NATO is a highly capable joint multinational force able to react in a very short time,” according to NATO. It includes land, air, sea and special operations units. The 40,000 troops consist of units from NATO's 30 members who rotate in and out in 12-month increments.

A Potential card to play?

 

Ukraine is a partner but not a full member as I understand it . Sweden and Finland are in the same boat .

Therefore none of these countries are therefore protected by Article 5 . Which in simple terms ,an attack on a member country is treated as an attack on all the members and will be repulsed by all the members .

This is why Putin feared the Ukraine joining Nato as a full member as he would have not been able to invade without severe consequencies ie WW3. Thats why his timing from his point of view was critical and a game of smoke and mirrors whilst he built his invasion forces up .

 

Yes - however - just as Putin can manipulate the rules of engagement and encroachment, then so can others:-

• Emergency meeting convened - Zelenskyy signs NATO application and is immeadiately accepted en bloc by all member countries

NATO article 5 applies

 

When was that done ? Just curious

Why is Ukraine still not in NATO?

Unfortunately Nato will not trigger Article 5 as they and rightly so would fear WW3 with a mad man at the helm of the other side .

 

True. But there MUST be even covert methods of getting tools into the civilians hands.

Retired General Wesley Clark, former Supreme Commander of NATO forces in Europe, and now a clear-headed, knowledgeable commentator on CNN, has very well-put and real-world assesments of the situation whenever they put him on. I have a feeling that if he were still in charge, things would be proceeding differently.

FWIW.

 

The speedy victory that was thought to be, seen as a failure
A unification of a Country united defiant in opposition
With former and considered allies not giving any kind of substansive support.
Authorising, deploying and releasing any kind of Nuclear weapons will see a response of devestating consequences - and even if Putin doesn't realise it - his Generals will

 

I think he is still on track .

Its just that the forward elements are always sent ahead and tend to be too light to do the job of the main force which will be getting in position tonight .

 

Ukrainian agents disguised as refugees enter Poland via their land border, take possession of the load on Poland's side, and return back home. My latest information is that rural Ukraine is still mostly in Ukrainian hands, as Russia is busy securing the major urban targets first. Kiev being their #1 objective. So plenty of space on the countryside to maneuver, if I've been informed correctly.

 

I would imagine it will turn into a guerrilla warfare in the same way as the Soviet Afghanistan war of the late 70s once the major cities have fallen.