Kyle Rittenhouse video and audio analysis clearly shows...

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  1. MeAgain

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    Biracial man charged with fatally shooting White teen was acting in self-defense, attorney says
     
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    Oh the humanity.
     
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    aka the Texas system of Justice.
     
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    There is a presumption of innocence until proven guilty, this means in such cases the prosecution has a higher burden of proof then the defense. This case was likely not as clear cut as either side made it out to be but in such a case, not guilty would be the default ruling.
     
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    I think you touched on a number nuances. First from what I understand, there is not an explicit age limit for that type of gun in Wisconsin. I don't think enough has been said in the discussion about him misrepresenting himself as a medic. I would agree probably was not smart to go there but there is not much of a case for murder, and as I said above the burden of proof is with the prosecution and they did a horrible job presenting their case.
     
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    As I understand it the judge ruled that under Wisconsin law Rittnehouse was permitted to carry an assault weapon, while under age, if he was hunting. The judge ruled he was hunting, what I don't know.
    I agree the prosecution did a poor job, but they were greatly hampered by the judge. Rittenhouse at the least was irresponsible and reckless resulting in the deaths.
     
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    Well, that's one take on it.
    It could also mean that if you see an active shooter, who has not rendered aid to the one shot, who has not surrendered his, or her, weapon, has not called for help, dialed 911, or shown any remorse at all and you believe that person may shoot someone else you should not try and stop them from shooting someone else. As we all know the pro gun lobby wants more people to have guns for just such situations, if you see someone get shot you should have a gun on hand to shoot back, but when we see that Gaige Grosskreutz produced a gun becasue he believed there was an active shooter roaming around...which there was...he was the attacker not the shooter.

    Moral #1
    Right wing conservative with a gun = good.
    Left wing liberal with a gun = bad.

    Moral #2
    Right wing conservative bringing a gun to a protest, or riot for that matter = good.
    Left wing liberal bringing a gun to a protest, or riot for that matter = bad.

    I predict more radicals both right and left showing up at protests, which are guaranteed by the Constitution, with arms and body armor. The intent will be intimidation and more violence will result due to this ruling. Rittenhouse should have at least been found guilty of reckless endangerment and curfew violation.
     
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    I still do not understand how shooting a person , on the ground bleeding from multiple shots, in the back is considered self defense .
     
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    That wouldn't be self defense anywhere in America. It's also not remotely what happened in this case.
     
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    None of that says shot in the back while on the ground bleeding.
    It's about time you watch the video. 4 shots in rapid succession ,all while he was moving towards KR,his upper body lowered as the last shot was the fired and entered his back. You can actually watch this, in slow motion, with narration.
     
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    I never said he was shot in the back while on the ground, that was someone else. I merely posted the medical examiner's testimony. He was shot in the back and that shot was lethal. As you point out he was shot four times in rapid succession, the last shot to the back as he was falling toward the ground due to the first three shots.
    After being shot in the hand, groin, and thigh with three high velocity full metal jacket bullets from an AR 15 at close range, I don't think the kill shot was necessary.
    If you remember Gaige Grosskreutz was incapacitated by a single shot which vaporized his bicep. And that was one shot only. A single shot to Joseph Rosenbaum would have stopped him as well. Rittenhouse panicked and unloaded four rounds into an unarmed man. Period.

    Neither of the two men had to die, if Rittenhouse hadn't brought the gun, hadn't chosen to walk alone in a dangerous environment, hadn't panicked, had stayed near police officers, no one would have died. He was found innocent which merely points out that the prosecution was hampered and the laws out dated.
    This ruling will not be good for further protests....which are legal by the way.
     
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    100% of the people who didn't violently attack KR did not get shot that night. The others were caught on video getting defended against.
    Nobody had to die or be injured that night. Not even KR.
     
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    And it was the rioting and burning and looting of his community that concerned him. Not protesting.
     
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    And hopefully this ruling will make people think twice before they violently attack someone over their differences of opinion.
     
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    Who won the presidential election?
     
  19. mcme

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    Wrong thread.
     
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    No---I'm trying to see just how far that you are in the trump cult , if you are.
     
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