Kyle Rittenhouse video and audio analysis clearly shows...

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  1. Tishomingo

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    It would go to motive. Now that Rittenhouse has been acquitted of all charges, it may be time for post mortems. Was justice done in this case? I think not. My own take on Rittenhouse was that he was an adolescent, not very macho, who acquired an AR-15 (because it looked cool) that he couldn't legally own thru a friend who was supposed to keep it for him until he turned 18. Then he took it that fateful night and went to a neighboring city where there was a racially-based riot going on looking for adventure. He misrepresented himself as a medic and was guarding a car dealership without being asked to do so. And when there was no action there, he ventured out into the danger zone with his cool weapon, was attacked, killed two people and wounded a third. I was seventeen once, so I have trouble thinking of him as a cold blooded killer. He was living an adolescent fantasy, making bad judgments, and got himself in way over his head. But it's hard for me to say he wasn't at all responsible for the deaths. The thought that he is now being lionized as a hero by the right is ludicrous, and will do neither Kyle nor our society good. Those deaths should haunt him for the rest of his life, but somehow I doubt they will.
     
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  2. Flagme15

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    Too many John Wayne movies, and video games.
    I read that he wants to become a nurse. How ironic in that he wants to go from wanting to kill people, to wanting to save them.
     
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    I'm wondering if armed in and out of state bounty hunters will start appearing in Texas to collect the $10,000 bounty on any abortion clinic, doctor, or anyone else who aids in an abortion?
    If you resist them, by throwing a plastic bag at them or knocking a hat off their head for example, they can then claim to "feel threatened" and legally shoot you four times.
    Or when the armed in and out of state bounty hunters show up to collect their victims (can I use that word?), will armed in and out of state anti - bounty hunters show up and when they are just standing around but "feel threatened" by the armed in and out of state bounty hunters will they then legally shoot them four times?

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  5. mcme

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    Because I've had a prosecutor look a judge in the eye and say things about me that never happened, unless there's corroborating evidence, I'm not inclined to believe them.
    Seems she had a tough time and there's enough to show that her case needs a new look.
     
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    And for the heck of it, where does black and white come into play in a legal sense?
     
  8. Flagme15

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    Way to deflect. Right out of the republican’s playbook.
     
  9. mcme

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    Or are you just in a racist state of mind?
     
  10. mcme

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    I thought you asked how I felt about her(situation)?
     
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    Oh,I forgot, your mind was made up about everything already, carry on.
     
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    . . .
     
  15. Tyrsonswood

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    "The new status quo for firearms outside the home was on prominent display last week in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Local resident Erick Jordan carried a rifle and holstered handgun near the courthouse where Rittenhouse was tried for killing two men and wounding a third with an AR-15-style semiautomatic rifle during a protest last year.

    “I got a job to do — protect these people. That’s it,” said Jordan, referring to speakers at a news conference that was held in the hours after the verdict.

    “This is my town, my people,” Jordan said. “We don’t agree on a lot of things, but we fight, we argue, we agree to disagree and go home safe, alive.

    “That’s real self-defense.”" In Kenosha and beyond, guns become more common on US streets


    If you 'argue, agree to disagree and go home safe, alive' there is no fucking reason for the AR-15, you fucking moron... Unless you can't win an argument without a gun.

    These people are not very bright, are they...
     
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    These people don't trust the government, nor their fellow citizens. They believe they are the arbitrator of justice, not society.
    To win an argument, or a debate, you need to have some semblance of rational thought, access to facts, and rhetorical ability; unless you have a gun, then it doesn't matter as the amount of force a gun can project is much greater in the short run than a well thought out argument. When you are confronted with an idea contrary to your beliefs and you find you are out maneuvered in thinking skills and logical thought many peoples' egos suffer and one way to rehabilitate it is to exert power over those you oppose. Parading around in public with a loaded assault weapon is a great way to state to everyone, "Even though I may lack thinking skills and logical thought processes and you disagree with my world view I am a very powerful individual who is not to be trifled with as you can see by my big scary looking gun, so don't mess with me."

    In the U.S. guns have become a status symbol, as armed citizens "protecting" the streets and byways has now become the equivalent of helping little old ladies across the street, in the view of many. I predict a Boy Scout merit badge for paroling a protest while armed and dangerous.
     
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    The power of the gun has replaced the power of logical reasoning. Who is going to debate these people when their next thought is to pull the trigger.
     
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    They can’t
     
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    They watched too many westerns as kids, and think they're Marshall Dillon squaring off against the bad guys in the streets of Dodge. But on a brighter note, the three defendants in the Ahmaud Arberry killing were convicted--one of malice murder, the others of felony murder, plus additional charges for all of them. A nearly all-white jury, as a result of the defense's deliberate exclusion of African-Americans by peremptory challenges, brought in these verdicts; in Georgia, that's no small feat! I watched both trials, and there were striking differences. First of all, the defense case in the Arbery trial was full of obvious holes. They were supposed to be making a citizens' arrest, but had only suspicion that a crime had been committed, no evidence that any had, and no indication they even thought any was necessary. On tape of their 911 call, when asked "what is the emergency", their reply was: "a black man is running down the street". And the self-defense argument was also flimsy. They created a situation in which the unarmed victim feared for his life, was running away from them, was cornered (as one defendant said) "like a rat", and was confronted with a shotgun. The aggressors can't claim self-defense when their victim tries to defend himself. Second, the prosecutor, in contrast with the Rittenhouse case, was impeccable in laying out a compelling case and arguments in meticulous detail. And finally, the judge was reasonable, in contrast to the obviously biased jackass on the bench in the Rittenhouse trial. I figured there would be a guilty verdict when some redneck plumbers I called to fix my toilet came in while I was watching the trial on TV and said :They're guilty! But we really needed this outcome to help restore some confidence in our justice system and hopefully put the brakes on the rising tide of vigilantism in our country.
     
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  20. scratcho

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    Lets see what happens now in the case of Mark Wilson and his girlfriend in Georgia. Wilson, black and his white girlfriend were driving along on a rural road and were being harassed by some white kids in a pickup as they drove along. The usual --n word--n-lover tossed at them , but then they ( the white kids in the pickup) tried to run them off the road. On a rural road-- at night-- in Georgia when you are black man with a white girlfriend and those epithets are hurled at you as you are feeling very afraid that you are going to be run off the road--with consequences unknown, but a sense of history in your memory--well-- Marc fired a shot at the pickup and a girl in the back seat was hit and killed. A tragedy for sure, but lets see if there will be any parallel to the Rittenhouse case when this happenstance becomes nationwide news.
     
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