The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. hotwater

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  2. Flagme15

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    and if the people don’t want kooks asking questions, they must hate ‘murica.
     
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    The GOP self-infllcted damage has worsened since the election.


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    Half of conservatives still insist the sun revolves around the earth, so stay tuned... because reality TV is all you have left. Biden is searching for the writers for "The Truman Show".
     
  6. newo

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    So if Trump doesn't leave Florida we may not be able to touch him. And with his security there's no point in sending a bounty hunter.

    On the bright side this would limit his proposed rallies to Florida, and would keep him from running again in 2024. All of this could erode his base even further, especially if he's convicted.

    It may be time for him to liquidate all his New York assets before they get confiscated.
     
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    Photo emerges of Republican barricading chamber doors during US Capitol attack after he compared rioters to ‘tourists’
    ‘Do Georgians always barricade doors against normal, everyday tourists?’ one critic asked
    Gino Spocchia
    May 16, 2021

    Photo emerges of Republican barricading chamber doors during US Capitol attack after he compared rioters to ‘tourists’

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    "Speaking on Wednesday to the House Oversight Committee, Rep. Clyde downplayed the actions of the pro-Trump mob who stormed the Capitol on 6 January as “a normal tourist visit”. The violent attack left five dead including one police officer.

    “As one of the members who stayed in the Capitol, and on the House floor, who with other Republican colleagues helped barricade the door until almost 3pm from the mob who tried to enter, I can tell you the House floor was never breached and it was not an insurrection,” Mr Clyde told the committee.

    “It was not an insurrection, and we cannot call it that and be truthful.”

    Mr Clyde’s remarks were lambasted by lawmakers and law enforcement experts. Fred Wellman, the executive director of the Lincoln Project and a former commanding officer of US forces in Iraq, wrote: “How craven is Rep. Clyde to say there was no insurrection?”

    “He helped barricade the doors from the ‘tourists.’ They know lying to the MAGA mob equals money. That’s all that matters.”"


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    Does Donald Trump Know He Could Be Arrested This Year?
    Louisa Ballhaus
    Fri, May 14, 2021, 3:17 PM

    Does Donald Trump Know He Could Be Arrested This Year?

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    "“He’s done something else that is less common, which is hire an outside lawyer, Mark Pomerantz, who’s a very distinguished, well-respected lawyer in New York. I’m not going to put too much weight on it,” he said, “but it seems like the kind of move you make when you believe that there’s going to be a charge or there’s a good likelihood of a charge, because it’s a pretty public thing to do.”

    “It’s just a gut feeling that I have that taking these actions indicates to me that that office believes there’s a decent likelihood of a charge,” he added, also mentioning their frequent meetings with former Trump attorney Michael Cohen, a likely sign that he was cooperating with their investigation."
     
  10. wooleeheron

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    When Wall Street collapsed the entire world economy and put Americans 20 trillion in debt, by committing widespread fraud, Iceland was the only country to throw the bums in jail, and the US and EU protested. A quarter of Americans still insist the sun revolves around the earth, and their idea of justice comes out of a crack box, with the Tea Party and democrats totally trashing out the entire constitution and judicial system but, never worry, never fear, money makes everything better.
     
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    GOP lies about Jan. 6 are the beginning of a three-part plan that's worse than al Qaeda: ex-Breitbart staffer

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    "Act two is the 2022 midterms," he continued. "And if Republicans somehow get control of one of two chambers of Congress, I guarantee you in 2024, if they don't like the results of the election, they will not certify them and they will create a Constitutional crisis, the likes of which we have never seen — putting democracy on edge and under threat in a way that it never was during the attacks of al Qaeda, during everything that we experienced in the 2000s. All of the alarmist rhetoric we heard from Republicans about terror and war and terrorism, well, guess what? The threat we are seeing right now from the Republican party is far bigger than any of that."
     
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    A historical look at the GOP.

    The article mentions Liz Cheney surviving an attempt to remove her from her chair which failed in February 2021.

    The GOP was eventually successful in removing her in May 2021.



    What Is Happening to the Republicans?
    In becoming the party of Trump, the G.O.P. confronts the kind of existential crisis that has destroyed American parties in the past.
    By Jelani Cobb
    March 8, 2021

    What Is Happening to the Republicans?

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    "Or consider the events of the past six months alone: during a Presidential debate, a sitting Commander-in-Chief gave a knowing shout-out to the Proud Boys, a far-right hate group; he also refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, and subsequently attempted to strong-arm the Georgia secretary of state into falsifying election returns; he and other Republican officials filed more than sixty lawsuits in an effort to overturn the results of the election; he incited the insurrectionists who overran the Capitol and demanded the lynching of, among others, the Republican Vice-President; and he was impeached, for the second time, then acquitted by Senate Republicans fearful of a base that remains in his thrall. The fact that behavior is commonplace does not mean it should be mistaken for behavior that is normal.

    But the character of the current Republican Party can hardly be attributed to Trump alone. A hundred and thirty-nine House Republicans and eight senators voted against certifying some of the Electoral College votes, even after being forced to vacate their chambers just hours earlier, on January 6th. A week later, a hundred and ninety-seven House Republicans voted against Trump’s impeachment, despite his having used one branch of government to foment violence against another. Liz Cheney, of Wyoming, the most senior of the ten Republicans who voted to impeach, survived an effort to remove her from her post as chair of the House Republican Conference but was censured by her state’s party organization. In the House, more Republicans voted against Cheney than voted to remove Marjorie Taylor Greene, of Georgia, the extremist Trump stalwart and QAnon promoter, from her committee posts. She lost those assignments, but only because the Democrats voted her out. Then, on February 13th, all but seven Republican senators voted to acquit Trump in his impeachment trial.
     
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    The GOP took Greene over Cheney.
     
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  14. hotwater

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    Exactly, Governor Ronald Dion DeSantis can only protect Trump while he's in Florida, the moment he steps foot over the stateline he's vulnerable
     
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    The function of the Secret Service becomes muddled if Trump is charged with a crime while not President. They are law enforcement officers and it seems they would have an obligation to arrest someone who has been criminally charged if the person is no longer the President.
     
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    F.E.C. Drops Case Reviewing Trump Hush-Money Payments to Women
    The case had examined whether Donald Trump violated election law with a $130,000 payment shortly before the 2016 election to a pornographic-film actress by his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen.
    By Shane Goldmacher
    May 6, 2021

    F.E.C. Drops Case Reviewing Trump Hush-Money Payments to Women

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    "The Federal Election Commission said on Thursday that it had formally dropped a case looking into whether former President Donald J. Trump violated election law with a payment of $130,000 shortly before the 2016 election to a pornographic-film actress by his personal lawyer at the time, Michael D. Cohen.

    The payment was never reported on Mr. Trump’s campaign filings. Mr. Cohen would go on to say that Mr. Trump had directed him to arrange payments to two women during the 2016 race, and would apologize for his involvement in a hush-money scandal. Mr. Cohen was sentenced to prison for breaking campaign finance laws, tax evasion and lying to Congress.

    “It was my own weakness and a blind loyalty to this man that led me to choose a path of darkness over light,” Mr. Cohen said of Mr. Trump in court in 2018.

    While Mr. Cohen has served time in prison, Mr. Trump has not faced legal consequences for the payment.

    “The hush money payment was done at the direction of and for the benefit of Donald J. Trump,” Mr. Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times. “Like me, Trump should have been found guilty. How the F.E.C. committee could rule any other way is confounding.”

    In a statement on Friday, Mr. Trump thanked the F.E.C. for dropping what he called “the phony case against me concerning payments to women relative to the 2016 presidential election.” "
     
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    The GOP is going down the road of cheap, quick, short-term remedies, such as voting restriction legislation, that it thinks will allow it to regain control of the House and Senate in 2022 and beyond instead of grappling with the longer term demographic changes that have been occurring states like in VA, GA, TX, AZ, and NV.



    What Is Happening to the Republicans?

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    "Michael Steele, the first Black chair of the Republican National Committee, told me that these efforts are a losing strategy. We spoke in mid-January, when the images of the Capitol insurrection were still fresh. Early in our conversation, he pointed to the decades when the Democrats controlled Congress in the middle of the twentieth century as a product of the G.O.P.’s operating as a regional party, based in the Northeast, rather than as a national one. Making inroads in the Southern states was key to the Party’s growing influence, but the modern Party, Steele told me, “is not really prepared for the ways that the country is changing”—including, again, in the South. “Virginia was a blood-red state,” he said. “It was actually sort of the model of Republican strength and political power, by virtue of how the Republicans controlled the state. But what happened? By 2006, that was done. And you could see the trend line heading down 95 into North Carolina, Georgia, bringing it over into the rest of the South.” Referring to the defeat of Trump, followed, in January, by that of the senators David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, Steele said that the Republicans “lost Georgia not once but three times.”"
     
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    Trump thinks the 2020 Georgia elections were a fraud because he lost Georgia but won the other deep south states.
     
  20. hotwater

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    It was Stacey Abrams that paved the way to victory in 2020 after her narrow defeat in the 2018 Georgia gubernatorial election.

    The narrowest defeat in Georgia in over 50 years, and that was with a lot of hanky panky going on.
     
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