The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    Were Cheeto Jesus to concede the 2020 election, or withdraw from the 2024 election, he wouldn't be able to bilk his cult for money. It could be just another fraud on his part; kinda like a televangelist.
     
  2. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    And don't forget Trump's legal woes which could ultimately disqualify him from running! :yum:
     
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  3. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    For conservatives, voting is all about making other people vote the way you want by lying, stealing votes, or whatever. The simple truth is, they elected Donald Duck because half of them believe their own party members are wimps, who're all talk and no action.
     
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  4. Flagme15

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    In 2016, you had clowns(Chris Christie, Lady Graham, Little Marco Rubio, and Rafael Cruz) running against him. I think if the repubs put up an intelligent, mature person, he/she might have a chance.
     
  5. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ California Tripper Administrator

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    But they don't have anyone that fits that description... that is the problem. Fundamental issue in fact.

    I thought and hoped this thread would die in January... it has a life of it's own... amazing. Like the life of Trump. Endless.

    I had a wise mentor, an older editor from New York City who warned us all back in the early 1980s that Donald Trump was a con artist and would eventually become a politician to grab more and more power.

    She was right.

    She also chose assisted suicide in Switzerland at the age of 96 when Trump got elected.

    RIP Margot...glad you didn't have to witness the last few years of this so-called life on earth.
     
  6. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Sure if the election were held today no Republican could seriously oppose Donald Trump, but his base is slowly fading, and by November 2024 he could be an afterthought, even if he isn't convicted of anything.
     
  7. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    OR, the event will be a fracture in the GOP which could not be repaired. Some Republicans might elect to switch to the Democrat Party. Ben Nighthorse Campbell went from Democrat to Republican after Desert Storm. This time we might see a shit toward the Democrat Party. In the 2020 election, Biden got more than 7 million votes than Trump. This next time, many voters will be voting pursuant feelings of distaste brought on by the behavior of and corruption on part of Republicans. I say Matt Gaetz and others like him will get less votes. The January 6th attack on the Capitol will also cause a drain of votes from the Republican total count. In the Midterms, we might see 9 million more votes for the Democrats.
     
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  8. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Margot Hornblower?
     
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  9. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ California Tripper Administrator

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    That's kinda funny :) I guess... there were other warning signs. She wasn't the only one who predicted what would happen...
     
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  10. Calamity Jane

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    This makes sense, yet I feel that most people back then didn't seriously believe Trump was going to win and that his whole campaign was a publicity-seeking joke. GOP lawmakers like Mitch McConnell & Paul Ryan issued defamatory statements against Trump during the primaries because they figured it would never come back to bite them. After the election, they had to backtrack and explain to us why they thought that Trump was really a swell guy, after all.

    As for the 'intelligent, mature' candidate the Republicans might put up to take down Trump, I'm sure they're out there, yet so many of them have already supported Trump during his term that I don't know what they'd say to damage his candidacy in '24 that people will accept.

    Yes, Democrats will believe what they say, but Dems don't vote in GOP primaries.
     
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  11. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    One close to me was also an editor at The Washington Post for nearly 20 years then went to to USATODAY for another six or seven years. That was back in the day when the Post was family owned.
     
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  12. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    At this juncture, I am asking myself if Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney will be switching party affiliation? If their own attack them they might go independent, which means they'll vote for Democrat Bills some of the time. If they join the Democrats, they might get pork for their state from Pelosi and Schumer? They might turn to the Democrats because their feeling are hurt and want that sense of Camaraderie.
     
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  13. egger

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    Liz Cheney anticipated post-election problems, such as Trump's insurrection at the Capitol and Trump's potential use of the U.S. military to try to settle election disputes in his favor.

    Some of Trump's supporters, like the convicted and Trump-pardoned Flynn, called for the military to intervene and redo the 2020 presidential election in the swing states that Trump lost.

    In the end, it was Trump's own followers who intervened at the Capitol while Trump watched it on TV and chose to not use the military to stop his insurrection, leaving the responsibility to the governors of Virginia and Maryland to send the national guard to DC.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e6c41e-adcf-11eb-acd3-24b44a57093a_story.html

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    Even before the Jan. 6 riot, she had been working to stem the threat she saw in Trump.

    “She called me and said, ‘You know, I’m really worried about this. What should we do?’ ” said former U.S. Ambassador Eric Edelman, who worked with her to write the essay by the former defense secretaries. “Liz was a prime mover of the whole thing, really.”

    Working closely with her father, former vice president Richard B. Cheney, the congresswoman volunteered to recruit Jim Mattis, the former Marine general who had served as Trump’s first defense secretary; Leon Panetta, who served as defense secretary in the Obama administration; and Donald H. Rumsfeld, who was defense secretary while her father was vice president, Edelman said.

    The opinion piece also warned the military that any involvement in election disputes was dangerous. Richard B. Cheney’s role in organizing the defense secretaries soon became public, but the congresswoman’s role was kept quiet at the time."
     
  14. egger

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    The GOP chose to not talk about Trump's declining support in battleground districts.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e6c41e-adcf-11eb-acd3-24b44a57093a_story.html

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    "The refusal to accept reality, she realized, went much deeper.

    When staff from the National Republican Congressional Committee rose to explain the party’s latest polling in core battleground districts, they left out a key finding about Trump’s weakness, declining to divulge the information even when directly questioned about Trump’s support by a member of Congress, according to two people familiar with what transpired.

    Trump’s unfavorable ratings were 15 points higher than his favorable ones in the core districts, according to the full polling results, which were later obtained by The Washington Post. Nearly twice as many voters had a strongly unfavorable view of the former president as had a strongly favorable one.

    Cheney was alarmed, she later told others, in part because Republican campaign officials had also left out bad Trump polling news at a March retreat for ranking committee chairs. Both instances, she concluded, demonstrated that party leadership was willing to hide information from their own members to avoid the truth about Trump and the possible damage he could do to Republican House members, even though the NRCC denied any such agenda."
     
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  15. egger

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    With Cheney's impending ouster, the GOP chooses Trump over principle
    Analysis by Maeve Reston, CNN
    Updated 6:15 AM ET, Sun May 9, 2021

    With Cheney's impending ouster, the GOP chooses Trump over principle - CNNPolitics

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    South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham -- who warned after Trump's February speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference that the former President has the ability to expand the Republican party or "destroy it" -- outlined the Republican Party's current calculus in clear terms when he was asked about Cheney.

    "I just say to my Republican colleagues -- can we move forward without President Trump? The answer is no," Graham said in an interview with Fox News Thursday. "I've always liked Liz Cheney, but she's made a determination that the Republican Party can't grow with President Trump. I've determined we can't grow without him."
     
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  16. egger

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    With Cheney's impending ouster, the GOP chooses Trump over principle | CNN Politics

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    "Former President Donald Trump promised to exact his revenge on Republicans who refused to go along with his election lies or turn a blind eye to his role in the January 6 insurrection. This week, Americans are likely to watch his first political casualty fall as the House GOP is poised to oust Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney from her No. 3 leadership post and replace her with Rep. Elise Stefanik.

    The decision to swap out Cheney for Stefanik, who has a far less conservative voting record but the golden calling card of loyalty to the former President, demonstrates that the GOP now values political expediency over the willingness to stand on principle in the post-Trump era.

    At first, many Republicans said Cheney had the right to speak her mind and criticize Trump for his role in the insurrection as they danced around his damaging and inaccurate statements that the election of President Joe Biden was rigged. Now their worries about appealing to his base in the upcoming elections seems to have convinced them that there is no room for disagreement with the former President and that having a vocal Trump critic on their leadership team is too much of a liability."
     
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  17. egger

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  18. egger

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    Statement by one of Trump's rioters at the Capitol who was arrested.

    "The first mitake they make in chambers we are going in and drag them out."

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  19. Flagme15

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    There is the Maryland governor, Larry ?

    Remember when Giuliani refused to let Trump buy him breakfast.

    At their core they are still conservatives. Although I can see Romney possibly becoming an independent. The problem is that if moderate republicans want to right the ship, they can’t do it by leaving the party.
     
  20. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    He abandoned his family on a fool's errand to Washington DC so let him rot in jail,

    Even if he temporarily gets out, he must know he'll be spending the next 10-15 years in prison
     
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