The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. egger

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    Blogger post about Copeland:


    "His statement, after he was charged; "that he was involved in a peaceful protest" (& he mentioned guns); the white middle class was, is so taken in by Trump, alt-right radio, Fox, Newsmax & OAN * & the indoctrination was deep.

    Many with military backgrounds have been charged & most say that they acted for the benefit of their wronged iconic (cult) leader..

    The lie (re elections) was repeated enough that it finally had a ring of truth to it, & many acted on it. I think about kingpins Cruz, Hawley, Lee who sit on their perch, carped about the illegal election, raked in millions in fundraising; & then far "beneath them" white patriots caught in the mayhem, that the politicians tacitly endorsed.

    And the real twist is the R media, & droves of R politicians that totally diminish the severity of the insurrection & months later shift the blame to progressives; feeling Trump had nothing to do with it? All in the messaging.

    There may be multiple plea bargains, settlements & light sentences (I don't know); but I can't imagine judges taking the bait & letting folk off under a "peaceful protest" defense. And all those cell phone shots taken of themselves & friends, factual evidence that will be admitted against them in hearings.

    Oh the egos, "look at me" my girl friend & I at the Capitol grounds, I didn't mean to push the cop, swing or push the fallen gate (barriers) & when I yelled, I didn't mean anything by it.

    I wonder how many of them know (when will they learn) they were "used by Trump", his machine & cause? And Hannity & Carlson still at it spinning - but both of them rolling in $ millions & buying new estates. The (Republican) good & bad news - the high rollers, keep rolling- the low rollers getting snagged & arrested & those on the "high side" could care less."
     
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  2. egger

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    One of Trump's rioters made such a statement to a police officer after pushing her and causing her to fall, strike her head on the stairs, and go unconscious. The protester's remark was, "Why did you get in our way? We didn't want to hurt you."
     
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  3. egger

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    Copeland blamed the police officers.


    Southern Utah man charged with attacking officers during U.S. Capitol riot

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    "In a Feb. 11 interview with the FBI, Copeland admitted he attended the rally, identified himself in photographs and “admitted to fighting with police officers,” the complaint states. Copeland allegedly told agents that he felt that “police officers were trying to ‘penetrate the line’ of the protesters and ‘steal’ individual members of the crowd.”"
     
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    Post by Copeland on Facebook after the riot.


    Southern Utah man charged with attacking officers during U.S. Capitol riot

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    "A series of Facebook posts from an account with the name Landon Copeland from Apple Valley addressed the case.

    “So that everyone knows I go to see the FBI and a judge tomorrow,” one post from Wednesday states. “I guess peacefully protesting at the Capitol is now illegal and they are trying to hunt us all down to try and teach us a lesson. Unfortunately only one option remains when we return. We bring guns and take the Capitol building without intention of being peaceful. This ends with the government bombing their own people. I had hopes it wouldn’t. But here we are.”"
     
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  5. egger

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    It's illegal to be on the steps of the Capitol without permission. Trump's protesters had already broken the law just being on the steps.


    https://www.uscp.gov/sites/uscapitolpolice.house.gov/files/wysiwyg_uploaded/Guidelines For Conducting an Event on United States Capitol Grounds_December 2019.pdf

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    "Prohibited Areas: Groups of any size are prohibited from demonstrating in the following areas:

    1. Inside any Congressional Buildings
    2. On the steps of the United States Capitol
    3. On the steps of any building on Capitol Grounds
    4. In any area otherwise closed or restricted for official use
    5. In roadways or any area routinely used for vehicular traffic
    6. Prohibited areas as identified in the “United States Capitol Grounds Demonstration Areas Map”"
     
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    Someone supposedly 'stole' the election from Trump which induced his followers to attack the police who supposedly tried to 'steal' protesters.
     
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  8. Flagme15

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    Apple Valley, Utah is in Washington County. St. George is the largest city in the county, and is booming. There are more Mormons in St. George than in Salt Lake City. This area of Utah is called Dixie(hmm). Cliven Bundy’s ranch is not too far away.
    Note, that part of Utah is hotter than hell in summer.
     
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  9. wooleeheron

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    Half the damned population of the US just approved of a dictator trashing our entire judicial system, and half the damned republican party still wants a dictator, while these guys are the Three Stooges debating who is in charge of the lynch mob.
     
  10. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Stop asking the wrong questions, and ask yourself how such a total dickhead is still alive and free. Half the damned country approves of this total dickhead, and disapproves of the other half the country. If conservative weren't already killing themselves faster than cancer, someone would declare war.
     
  11. wooleeheron

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    Believe it or not, if half the damned population claims your politics are garbage, they are.
     
  12. stormountainman

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    It sort of like being in Arkansas but with a little less water.
     
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  13. egger

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    Instead of Trump needing to form his own party, the remnants of what used to be the GOP are now facing the prospect of having to form a new party to compete with a formative institutionalized Trump GOP.


    Institutionalizing Trumpism
    Axios
    Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei
    May 7, 2021

    The evidence is piling up: Trump's iron grip over the GOP has been institutionalized

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    "Republican officials are rendering an unequivocal verdict: They want to cement former President Trump's politics and policies into the foundation of the GOP for many years to come.

    Why it matters: The debate over Trump's post-election hold on the GOP is over — it has gotten stronger since the Jan. 6 storming of the Capitol.

    The evidence is overwhelming:
    • House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney, a Trump critic, is expected to get booted from leadership next week for saying Trump's claims of an illegitimate Biden victory are lies and destructive.
    • Trumpian voting restrictions like Georgia's are now being debated in Texas, Florida, Arizona, Iowa and other states.
    • The Trump positions on trade and immigration — both of which broke with Bush-era orthodoxy — are now the Republican positions.
    • The 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump after the Jan. 6 violence have gone mostly silent, and in at least one case turned on Cheney.
    • The entire House GOP leadership will soon be full-throated Trumpers.
    • House Rs expect Trump-backed candidates to crush his critics in contested primaries.
    • State-level Republican leaders are often as — or more — Trumpian than national leaders, and in many cases will control redistricting."
     
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  14. egger

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    Narrated video summary of Capitol riot.


    Youtube video:

    Washington Post - Inside the U.S. Capitol at the Height of the Siege - Visual Forensics

     
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    12:20: The reaction of Rep. Dan Kildee (D-MI) inside the House chamber after hearing the loud gunshot that killed Ashli Babbitt.

    "The fuck?!"
     
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    Grandma gossip led to alleged Capitol rioter’s arrest: court docs
    By bfeuerherdnyp
    May 6, 2021

    Alleged rioter Robert Petrosh Jr. arrested after granny gossip: docs

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    "An accused Capitol rioter from New Jersey was charged in the siege after gossip from a grandmother made its way to the FBI, according to court papers unsealed this week.

    The suspect, Robert Petrosh Jr., of Mays Landing, was charged after an anonymous tipster told the FBI that his grandmother heard from Petrosh’s mother that he stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 with throngs of Donald Trump supporters.

    The tipster added that Petrosh had been “lying low” after a number of the alleged Capitol rioters were arrested in the weeks after the uprising.

    Investigators then obtained a copy of Petrosh’s driver’s license and matched his photo to footage that shows him inside the Capitol during the riot, according to the court documents."


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    Trump DOJ secretly seized phone records from Washington Post reporters

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    "The Justice Department sent letters dated May 3 to three current and former reporters at the newspaper, informing them that DOJ had obtained phone records from the period of April 15, 2017, to July 31, 2017, the Washington Post reported.

    The records included the caller and recipient of each call as well as the duration, but not what was said on the calls.

    The letters did not say why the records were seized. But during the three-and-a-half-month period, the three Washington Post reporters had published a story on intelligence intercepts indicating that former Attorney General Jeff Sessions had discussed details pertaining to Trump’s presidential campaign with then-Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

    "We are deeply troubled by this use of government power to seek access to the communications of journalists," Washington Post executive editor Cameron Barr said in a statement. "The Department of Justice should immediately make clear its reasons for this intrusion into the activities of reporters doing their jobs, an activity protected under the First Amendment.""
     
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    Liz Cheney secretly organised move to help stop Trump using military to overturn election, report claims
    Former advisor to Dick Cheney says ‘Liz is living reproach to all these cowards’
    Gustaf Kilander, Raleigh, NC
    May 7, 2021

    Liz Cheney secretly organised move to help stop Trump using military to overturn election, report claims

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    "Embattled Wyoming Rep Liz Cheney secretly organized the open letter written by all living former defence secretaries arguing against the military getting involved in election disputes.

    On 3 January, just three days before the Capitol riot, 10 former Pentagon leaders, including two who served in the Trump administration, signed an op-ed in The Washington Post.

    “Efforts to involve the U.S. armed forces in resolving election disputes would take us into dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory,” they wrote.

    The No. 3 Republican in the House, Ms Cheney is on her way out as GOP conference chair as her colleagues have soured on her for her persistent criticism of former president Donald Trump and his false claims of fraud surrounding the 2020 election."
     
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