The Donald Trump Score Card

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    'Seditious abuse of judicial process': States fire back at Texas' Supreme Court election challenge
    Rebecca Shabad and Dareh Gregorian and Geoff Bennett and Josh Lederman and Haley Talbot and Deepa Shivaram and Pete Williams
    Thu, December 10, 2020, 4:53 PM EST

    'Seditious abuse of judicial process': States fire back at Texas' Supreme Court election challenge

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    "But it is hard to imagine what could possibly undermine faith in democracy more than this court permitting one state to enlist the court in its attempt to overturn the election results in other states," said the state's Democratic attorney general, Josh Kaul.

    The response from Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr, a Republican, called Texas' action an "attack on Georgia’s sovereignty" that should be dismissed outright.

    A coalition of 23 Democratic states and territories also submitted a brief opposing Texas' bid, as did the Republican attorney general of Ohio, Dave Yost, who argued that what Texas was seeking "would undermine a foundational premise of our federalist system: the idea that the States are sovereigns, free to govern themselves."
     
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    Ivanka Trump says she was deposed for 5 hours in inaugural spend probe. Here’s what she failed to mention
    Dan Mangan, Christina Wilkie, and Kevin Breuninger
    Published Thu, Dec 3 202012:58 PM ESTUpdated Fri, Dec 4 20205:25 PM EST

    Ivanka Trump says she was deposed for 5 hours in inaugural spend probe. Here's what she failed to mention

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    "Ivanka Trump’s tweet condemning the suit as “politically motivated” included an email that indicates she told managers of her father’s hotel in Washington to charge “fair market rate” for its services during the inauguration after Donald Trump won the 2016 presidential election.

    But what the senior White House advisor did not mention is that she only said that after being warned by a top inaugural committee official of the “quite high” minimum rate of $3.6 million for food and beverage and use of the banquet halls during inauguration week that the committee was being quoted by the Trump International Hotel.

    Nor did Ivanka Trump mention that the mere fact of having an incoming president having his inaugural committee buy goods and services from a hotel he owned was unprecedented in U.S. history, much less when that hotel wanted to charge that committee, a nonprofit entity funded by private donors, millions of dollars for those services.

    Ivanka Trump’s effort to spin news of the deposition comes as President Donald Trump’s company faces a criminal probe by the Manhattan district attorney’s office that relates to his income taxes, as that company is under investigation by the New York state attorney general for possible misstatement of asset values and as her father is being sued by a writer for defaming her after the writer said he raped her in the 1990s."
     
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    Relax, A Trump Comeback In 2024 Is Not Going To Happen
    By John F. Harris
    Thu, December 10, 2020, 4:30 AM EST

    Relax, A Trump Comeback In 2024 Is Not Going To Happen

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    "There are three primary reasons to be deeply skeptical that Trump’s moment of dominating his party and public consciousness will continue long after Jan. 20.

    Most important are the abundant precedents suggesting Trump does not have another important act in national politics. The perception that Trump will remain relevant hinges on the possibility that he is a unique historical figure. Trump, however, is singular in one sense only: No politician of his stripe has ever achieved the presidency. In multiple other ways, he is a familiar American type, anticipated by such diverse figures as Joseph McCarthy, George Wallace, and Ross Perot.

    Like Trump, they all possessed flamboyant, self-dramatizing personas. They tapped into genuine popular grievance toward elites, and had ascendant moments in which they caused the system to quake and intimidated conventional politicians of both parties. In every case, their movements decayed rapidly. Cults of personality in American politics are quite common. But they never live long, and Trump has offered no reason to suppose he will be an exception."
     
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    Relax, A Trump Comeback In 2024 Is Not Going To Happen

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    "That’s the second reason Trump is not well-positioned to retain his hold on public attention: He has largely abandoned any pretense that he thinks about anything other than his personal resentments, or that he is trying to harness his movement to big ideas that will improve the lives of citizens. When he vaulted into presidential politics five years ago, Trump’s still-potent gifts — for channeling anger, for mockery, for conspiracy theory — were once channeled to an agenda that fellow Republicans were largely neglecting, over trade, immigration, globalization, and perceptions of national decline. These days, no one can follow Trump’s Twitter feed and believe that he cares more about the public’s problems than his own, and that is not a recipe for sustaining political power.

    Here is the third reason to be bearish on Trump’s future: Politics never stands still, but Trump largely does. As he leaves the White House, Trump should be haunted by a stark reality — if he had any capacity for self-calibration, he wouldn’t be leaving the White House at all. He’s got one set of political tools. When things are going well, his instinct is to double down on those. When things are going poorly, his instinct is to double down on those. In political terms, the pandemic demanded modulation of Trump’s blame-casting brand of politics — but also would have lavishly rewarded him if he had done so."
     
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    Delusional Trump Tells Hanukkah Party Guests 'We're Gonna Win' Election He Just Lost
    Lee Moran·Reporter, HuffPost
    Thu, December 10, 2020, 3:37 AM EST

    Delusional Trump Tells Hanukkah Party Guests 'We're Gonna Win' Election He Just Lost

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    "President Donald Trump falsely declared during a White House Hanukkah party on Wednesday that “we’re gonna win this election in a landslide” if “certain very important people” have wisdom and courage.

    Trump’s bogus claim prompted guests to chant “four more years.” To be clear, Trump lost the election and Joe Biden is now the president-elect."
     
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    This is why Democratic AGs should sue Texas, and Paxton, in particular, for conduct unbecoming of a state attorney general.
     
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    Trump is using innuendo again.

    He wants the members of the Supreme Court to essentially agree to his desire to commit sedition by overturning a fair and legal election he clearly lost.
     
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    17 Republican Attorneys General Back Trump in Far-Fetched Election Lawsuit

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    "The willingness of so many Republican politicians to publicly involve themselves in a legal campaign to invalidate the ballots of millions of Americans shows how singular a figure Mr. Trump remains in the G.O.P. That these political allies are also elected officials whose jobs involve enforcing laws, including voting rights, underscores the extraordinary nature of the brief to the court. Even in defeat — a reality that a significant number of Republicans refuse to accept, polls show — allegiance to Mr. Trump is viewed as the ticket to higher office."
     
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    An incoming president can rescind executive orders of the previous president, and should be able to rescind pardons, especially for egregious criminal activity.
     
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    I think it's a double edged sword. When trump becomes irrelevant, in a couple of years, I think people will realize that they made a mistake in supporting him, and these republican candidates may pay a political price.
     
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    Undetectable fraud is the latest claim by Trump's attorneys.



    The Trump team throws in the towel on proving voter fraud.
    By Aaron Blake
    December 10, 2020

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/10/trump-team-throws-towel-proving-voter-fraud/

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    "The Texas lawsuit, though, effectively acknowledges that that effort has failed. Rather than claiming evidence of proven fraud, it instead claims that the fraud is actually “undetectable,” because election officials made it so by doing illegal things. And that’s why it wants the results overturned."


    "The Texas lawsuit, though, shifts the focus entirely to another matter: the actions of elections officials. It says their actions, including the Republicans who run Georgia’s elections, actually obscured evidence of fraud.

    “The unlawful actions of election officials effectively destroy the evidence by which the fraud may be detected,” it says.

    The lawsuit does not claim evidence of fraud in the vote-tabulation process but rather says, “The public record demonstrates a ballot-counting process replete with chaos, confusion, and partisan bias.”

    It also comes close to acknowledging that fraud has not conclusively been proved."
     
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