The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. Tyrsonswood

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    Comprehension 101
     
  2. Flagme15

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    It’s a CBS affiliate. That’s msm.
     
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  3. egger

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    Trump Asks Supreme Court To Let Him Join Widely Scorned Texas Election Lawsuit

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    "Just how little legal support there is for the lawsuit is evidenced by who signed the briefs asking the high court to intervene. Trump's brief was not signed by the Acting Solicitor General Jeffrey Wall or any other Justice Department official. Rather, the brief was signed by John Eastman, a conservative law professor at Chapman University. (A Trump campaign statement said the president intervened "in his personal capacity as candidate for re-election.")

    The Texas brief was not signed by the state's solicitor general, Kyle Hawkins. As for Paxton, who signed the Texas brief, he remains under indictment for securities fraud and is also facing an FBI investigation on bribery and abuse of office allegations.:
     
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  4. egger

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    The Republican controlled PA legislature wrote, approved, and voted unanimously for Act 77 in 2019 which altered the way elections are conducted. Paxton of Texas is now suing PA and saying that it was unconstitutional. Yet the governor of Texas used an executive order to make changes in TX similar to those in PA.


    17 red states join Texas' lawsuit to throw out blue states' ballots — even though some had the same voting rules

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    "Essentially, the Texas lawsuit alleges executive officials in the four states that went for Biden improperly tweaked voting rules, thus invalidating their results. But Texas' own Republican governor did exactly the same thing, using an executive order to extend the early voting period for the 2020 election, Reuters' Brad Heath notes. The suit also alleges Pennsylvania's decision to accept late-arriving ballots "raise concerns about election integrity" there, even though Kansas and Mississippi, two supporters in the case, accepted late ballots as well.

    The brief also argues that executive officials shouldn't be able to mess with voting rules. But Texas -- the plaintiff in this case, the state they're supporting -- did that very thing. The governor used executive power to extend the early voting period, among other things."
     
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  5. egger

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    Trump supporters can claim that changes that states made to their voting procedures are Consitutional and fair as long as Trump won those states.

    They're un-Constitutional and fraudulent if Biden won.
     
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  6. stormountainman

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    What we should ask him is if this case would yield different results in the Supreme Court. Trump's other 47 cases went nowhere. The AG of Michigan said this one will go nowhere. Talk about desperate last minute attempts? Maybe something would sink in. Baconator hasn't absorbed anything from outside Trump sources else so far, that I know of?
     
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  7. stormountainman

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    One of Trump's supporters just got convicted of bombing a mosque in Minnesota today. Trump's supporters can be rather violent. A Pennsylvania lawmaker today said he had to support Trump otherwise his house would be bombed by Trump supporters.
     
  8. egger

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    The Real Threat of Trump’s Latest Doomed Plea to the Supreme Court

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    "This case, Texas v. Pennsylvania, is so ridiculous that it is not worth exploring its legal claims in any depth. Paxton’s suit asks the Supreme Court to throw out every vote in four states won by Joe Biden—Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin—then direct each state’s legislature to declare Trump the winner. This act would constitute the single biggest incident of voter nullification in American history. Paxton alleges that all four states illegally expanded mail voting, permitted egregious fraud, then concealed evidence that Democrats stole the election. There is no basis in truth for his factual claims and no basis in law for his legal theories. Indeed, it seems likely that Paxton, who is reportedly under FBI investigation for corruption, is more interested in obtaining a preemptive pardon from Trump than presenting a coherent legal argument.

    What’s not as clear is why 17 state attorneys general, all Republican, decided to join Paxton’s humiliating crusade. Their brief, spearheaded by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, parrots Paxton’s false assertions about widespread fraud, urging SCOTUS to take up the case. They accuse the four defendant states of repeatedly violating the Constitution by allowing more people to vote by mail during the pandemic. And they claim that, by allowing voters to cure faulty absentee ballots, the states violated the equal protection clause. To remedy this alleged problem, they suggest, the Supreme Court must wipe out every vote cast in all four states, clearing the way for each state legislature to assign their electors to Trump."
     
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  9. stormountainman

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    Do you actually think this will get somewhere? Are you aware this same Supreme Court has already said each state can make its own election rules? Isn't that how the governor of Texas ordered ballot drop boxes to be limited to one location in each county? Didn't this same Supreme Court already say Republican states can set their own limits on when mail in ballots could be accepted and counted? Didn't this same Supreme Court say the Wisconsin state rules on voting in person were up to each state? Why would they change their own rules and let Texas decide what Michigan can do?
     
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    The Real Threat of Trump’s Latest Doomed Plea to the Supreme Court

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    "How did we get here? To start, at least 13 of the 17 attorneys general on the motion are affiliated with the Federalist Society, a powerful and lavishly funded network of conservative attorneys. The Federalist Society has achieved unprecedented success under Trump: He has nominated its members to serve as judges, political appointees, and, of course, his own personal lawyers. A huge portion of election-related litigation over the last few months has been driven by Federalist Society members eager to toss out as many Democratic ballots as possible. All the while, the conservative legal movement has insisted that it is dangerous and unacceptable for anyone to criticize any attorney who chooses to support Trump in court."
     
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  11. stormountainman

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    Well, the Democrat states can respond and file a counter claim concerning the practices of the Republican 17 idiots. Adjudicating the matter should take about seventeen years. If it is remanded to a district court, would that be in Michigan, or Pennsylvania? If we have a new AG, would he withdraw the case like William Barr did in the Flynn case? If Paxton has a personal stake in the matter, can he sign any pleading? John Roberts might be very upset about right now, huh? What a judicial clusterfuck if I ever saw one, huh?
     
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  12. egger

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    It's not completely clear who actually wrote the Paxton lawsuit.


    In new lawsuit, Texas contests election results in Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania

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    "Notably, Paxton himself is listed as the agency's lead attorney on the case — a highly unusual role for the state official, who rarely plays a hands-on role even in the state's major cases. Paxton's new chief deputy, Brent Webster, signed on to the filing, but conspicuously absent is the agency's top lawyer for appellate work, Solicitor General Kyle Hawkins, who typically argues the state's cases before the Supreme Court and did so as recently as last month. None of Hawkins' deputies is listed as contributing to the case, nor are any of the agency's hundreds of other attorneys.

    The agency instead appears to have hired an outside attorney, Lawrence Joseph, to contribute to the case."
     
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    Hypothetical Trump statement to Paxton:

    "I plan to issue numerous pardons in the coming weeks to people in need. By the way, I'd like you to do me a favor."
     
  14. Tyrsonswood

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    Exactly this ^^^
     
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    Don't get your hopes up too high, apparently whoever drafted the lawsuit can't add

    In the Texas lawsuit it says the four states it wants to sue have a total of 72 electoral votes, the total is actually 62 ...lol...
     
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    I almost said something to him that might have got me banned. I will just say that I really dislike people who's argument is based on what they hear on faux news, and talk radio. In other words, people who are not capable of thinking for themselves.
     
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    "She just wants to go home," said another source familiar with Melania Trump's state of mind. Asked how the first lady feels about rumors her husband might announce a 2024 bid, the source added: "That might not go over well." He will pay her off, and find another one.
     
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    Is that where the 75% of the "lawsuit donation fund" is going?
     
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    They want to keep their jobs.
     
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