The Donald Trump Score Card

PolitiFact - Trump’s Michigan car industry claims veer off course

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"There’s nothing fully correct in any of that. Japan didn’t announce five companies coming to Michigan. Trump didn’t save the auto industry. And he didn’t bring a lot of car plants to the state — the most he can claim is one.

That one is a Fiat Chryler factory that will build Jeep SUVs in Detroit, on the site of an idled engine plant. It’s due to open in 2021. That is part of a package of investments in five other Fiat Chrysler plants in the state.

"Trump can count it as a new plant because it closed back in 2013 before he became president," said automobile industry researcher James Rubenstein at Ohio’s Miami University.

But when Trump said that he saved the auto industry, he left out that total auto industry employment in Michigan dropped by about 3,000 in 2019. That was after a steady rise since 2010, when the major U.S. automakers began to recover from the recession and their restructurings. The coronavirus-induced economic slump this year brought more job losses, but the declines took place before the virus arrived.

As for the previous administration nearly killing the industry, the evidence points to the opposite. In 2008 and 2009, intervention by the Bush and Obama administrations pulled the auto and auto parts makers back from the brink of collapse. Under the Obama administration, General Motors and Chrysler went through quick, taxpayer-financed bankruptcy reorganizations orchestrated by a federal task force and the U.S. Treasury, and both emerged from the Great Recession to add jobs and production capacity."

 

New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: Trump falls 10 points behind Biden amid reports he misled Americans about COVID-19 and disparaged U.S. soldiers
Andrew Romano·West Coast Correspondent
September 11, 2020, 5:50 PM EDT

New Yahoo News/YouGov poll: Trump falls 10 points behind Biden amid reports he misled Americans about COVID-19 and disparaged U.S. soldiers

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"The results suggest that a week of unrelenting and unflattering revelations about Trump — from the Atlantic report on his alleged contempt for Americans wounded or killed in war (which appeared on Sept. 3) to Bob Woodward’s recordings of Trump admitting he downplayed the deadliness of COVID-19 (released on Sept. 9) — has damaged the president’s standing with voters.

Asked if their opinion of Trump’s coronavirus response has changed because of Woodward’s big scoop — a tape of Trump privately acknowledging the virus was “deadly stuff” even as he publicly sought, in his own words, “to play it down”— nearly a quarter of Americans (23 percent) say yes. Even 15 percent of those who voted for Trump in 2016 say the Woodward news has changed their mind about the president’s handling of the pandemic.

Those might seem like small numbers. But in an age of extreme polarization, they could augur a real shift. Overall, 15 percent of Americans say the Woodward quotes have made them less likely to vote to reelect the president in November — and a third of these were 2016 Trump supporters.

The military story seems to have had a similar impact. Asked which candidate shows more respect for the military, 50 percent of registered voters name Biden, compared to 39 percent for Trump. By the same margin, voters say Biden would do a better job leading the military than the current commander in chief.

Reactions to Trump’s reported remarks on the military were predictably partisan, but nearly a quarter of independents (23 percent) say the news increased their support for Biden, compared to just 9 percent who say the news increased their support for Trump. Six percent of 2016 Trump supporters say they have moved toward Biden as a result."

 

I'm interested to see whether he gets a cease and desist order over using that song.
George Harrison's family sued him over his use of Here Comes The Sun in 2016. He is currently under fire by the Rolling Stones for using You Can't Always Get What You Want. He had the same trouble with lots of others who didn't want their music used at his rallies.
What a drag it is being Trump...

 

Well, how about you, you going to attempt an answer?

Number of international visitors and contract tracing. These were the two most important areas on stopping the spread.

He did act early enough with the China travel ban. As for contract tracing, Sth Korea already had draconian measures in place so authorities have access to private information of citizens, a system you would never have been implement in the US and time, and your President doesn't have enough authority over those idiot state governors anyway

The world hasn't even been through a full year of this thing, Northern Hemisphere has yet to go through a Covid winter

The only kind of answer I'm going to get here is an idiotic, oh he should have told people to wear masks more....here we are in September and they are being told in Oregon that face masks are useless against wildfire smoke

 

Let's just stick to the average of the national polls instead of singling out one or two you think have moved

2020 Presidential Election Polls: Biden vs. Trump

Which is still sitting at 41/49, an 8% difference, conducted on the 11th. So no movement

What's the big revelation from Woodward, that he waited until just before the election to release the tapes, and that the President didn't want a mass panic

We have all watched Deep Impact, isn't that what the President is supposed to do

*Shrugs BFD

 

COVID-19 Has Killed Dozens of 9/11 First Responders
As America marks the 19th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks, one activist calls Trump pandemic response "atrocious"
By Corky Siemaszk
Sept. 11, 2020, 3:17 PM EDT
Updated Sept. 11, 2020, 5:04 PM EDT

COVID-19 Has Killed Dozens of 9/11 First Responders

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"While Trump has repeatedly praised his administration’s response to the pandemic, the United States now accounts for over a fifth of the world’s more than 910,000 coronavirus fatalities and 28 million confirmed cases, according to the Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 dashboard.

Feal said he steadfastly tried not to pick a political side when he battled the George W. Bush administration after 9/11 to get help for the first responders, and last year when he successfully lobbied Congress with the comedian Jon Stewart to renew funding for the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund

But Feal admitted that as he watched Trump depart for Shanksville on Friday, he found himself wadding-up pieces of paper into balls and throwing them at the TV screen.

“The response to the pandemic by the federal government has been a disaster, just atrocious,” Feal said. “There’s all this bragging about what a great job we’re doing with the pandemic while at the same time we’re normalizing people dying. We’re losing touch with humanity. We have failed. And I’m not alone in thinking that.”"

 

If he (POTUS Trump) would have told people to wear masks, and actually HIM wearing a goddamn mask (setting the example as a leader should) - that’s
NOT idiotic advice! Imagine how many more people would still be alive, and the number of people infected would be exponentially lower. I truly believe this.

 

Hey man, I've asked you a hundred times to answer my question. and you haven't. Why should I answer yours?

Yeah we know. You've repeated that a thousand times

So I have a car I will sell you. It's a 1957 Chevy. It's in Havanna. Do you have a boat?

 

Because Trump has been following the policies VG has been advocating since the start of the crisis. VG is a true believer who worships the man. His is a religious devotion. Hard to get through to that!

 

Someone else somewhere mentioned they thought Boris Johnson had changed his tune after getting Covid himself. I don't see a lot of evidence to that though, they still seem to have a half assed approach to contact tracing, nursing homes and funding over there in the UK, many European countries as well

If someone like Boris is now more likely to tell people what they want to hear, moreso than Trump, but the actions and results are the same....then what's the difference as to what those leaders say

A lot of those European leaders were planning a balance from the very start, between how many deaths and how bad the economy gets hurt, just because they spewed a whole bunch of bullshit about lives coming first, doesn't mean that's the way they were planning it

Changes in GDP, how much national debt increases, how much was spent furloughing workers and how quickly those unemployment figures change all give away how legit a countries lockdown was in the first place

 

Trump has spent 7 months downplaying the coronavirus that has killed nearly 200,000 Americans because he supposedly doesn't want to scare the public. At the same time, he's been scaring the public about everything else that he thinks might help his reelection.

Trump isn't the type of person to rely on for advice while in a burning theater or on the Titanic. He would downplay the danger to everyone for the purpose of insuring that he had a safe way out for himself. Later he would contend he did a good deed by not scaring everyone who ended up dying due to his selfish actions.

 

Trump's life has been one of continual self-dealing. Ventures that might first appear to be altruistic, like Trump charities, turn out to be more self-dealing funded by people he duped.

Woe to those like the deceased coronavirus victim Herman Cain and others who have such a high gullibility to believe and do whatever Trump says. Some will even defend their allegiance to Trump with their last breath as they head to their deaths that he facilitated.


Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds | New York State Attorney General

 

Damn fools, they are......damn fools!

 

Some, like the late Herman Cain, as they headed to their avoidable deaths would praise Trump for being so considerate of not wanting to scare them with reality.

 

It can be difficult, but some have admitted publicly that they were duped, such as the farmer in the following article.

Members of the military have lost their initial favorable view of Trump. The white suburban votes, particularly women, now have negative views about him. Some of those who enrolled in Trump University realized they were cheated and won their lawsuit.

Pennsylvania farmer who voted for Trump in 2016 to speak at DNC: "He conned me"

 

I’m glad that Trump University lawsuit was a victory for those duped by this con artist! Glad they won! When he gets voted out of office, there will be long lines of people who are disgruntled and have been fucked-over by him just waiting for their day in court.

 

VG is politically and factually irrational.

 

And lives in Australia- far away from reality of wtf is going on in the US

 

Trump said in January that China had everything under control and we only had one guy "coming in from China" in March. Trump screwed up the governmental response to this virus. Trump also dismantled the Obama Pandemic Office. That was real stupid.

 

I can't prove it but suspect he is paid to be defending Trump. There are several on HF around the clock selling Trump snake oil.