What’s needed to stop an American dictatorship?

He'll try to be the last elected president. The orange toddler, I mean.

 

Trump is hardly youthful. And it's the opponents of dystopia--i.e., liberals and progressives, who are struggling to prevent it. But we're encountering heavy headwinds from Trump cultists and drug-besotted hippies who think this will work out just great.

 

How mature. Confirms my worst stereotypes about Trumpsters.

 

Scratcho, he just said he wants Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton to be his next supreme court nominees! How outrageous is that? He wants to do some serious harm to the American people, don't you think?

 

You forgot the one where the twit declared Trump the greatest President in U.S.history!

 

I think he wants you to know he gets constipation often?

 

Putin playbook!

 

I agree completely, Tishomingo. Everyday I am shocked with some new outrageous statement from Trump; and, coupled with his actions, I always wonder if he gets the marching orders from Putin. And Putin must be delighted that every American government agency is now nearly or completely crippled.

 

Noticed you didn't give any examples to substantiate your claim about what "They" did. Let's see, Balbus claimed Trudgin' lacked "vision" and "empathy". Of course, he didn't bother to justify his claim either. Hmmmm, I'm seeing a pattern here.

 

There's proof Trump lied about the severity of covid-19 and thousands died and continue to die needlessly. He called fallen soldiers "losers." He said our military starts wars to profit the military industrial complex.

Who's left to vote for him besides white supremacists, religious nuts, and rich people who don't want to pay taxes?

 

srgreene

Sorry but I did explain why I though those things – did you not read it or just not understand it?

I am very happy to explain it again for you.

Lacking in empathy

Now first off it wasn’t just Trud, he was just an example, I’m arguing that many on the right lack vision and empathy. One of the reasons as I’ve explained many times before (you really should read the posts) is that it’s because a lot of their thinking is based on Social Darwinist ideas. In Trud’s case the idea of ‘shit happens’ (did you see that?) when I explained that the shit doesn’t have to happen if people are willing to help, that if you don’t care about the shit happening or want the shit to happen then basically you are lacking in empathy (the opposite to empathy been indifference to others hardship)

Do you understand that?

Lacking in vision

So what do I mean by vision – what better world are you aiming to bring about – I mean it would be totally irrational to be aiming for a worse world.

Again this is something that is not aimed at just Trud but at many on the right and I’ve explained my viewpoint many, many times so I can’t see how you have missed it.

My vision for the future like many lefties is for a place where people can live healthy, prosperous lives and everyone can fulfil their potential. And the policies and ideas I often talk about explain and promote are about bringing that vision about such as universal healthcare, welfare, education, training, and a new green deal amongst others.

So what vison for a better future does the right have – I’ve asked many times but many right wingers seem unable or unwilling to explain.

Can you?

You see the things many right wingers seem to support and promote don’t seemed aimed at a better future or rather aimed at a better future only for a few to the detriment of everyone else. For example tax cuts that only favour the already well off or wealthy, deregulation that undercut workers’ rights and brings about the degradation of the environment, a social system based around the exploitative ideas of Social Darwinism and encouraging gerrymandering, voter suppression and ballot rigging that in the context of this thread undermines US democracy and paves the way to possible dictatorship.

 

Green can only see through white Christian identity eyes. Go back and read all the anti Muslim posts.

 

Tsk tsk ...

 

Yes, show me an "anti-Muslim" comment that I have made. I deny having done so, so if you do not, once again I call you out as a liar.

I have made harsh comments about Islam, a repressive, misogynistic, totalitarian ideology if ever there was one.

You have only shown yourself incapable of making the most fundamental of distinctions.

 

In the comment I responded to, you made a strong indictment of Trud's motives. YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TRUD's or MY MOTIVES. you supplied absolutely zero rationale to support your cliam. That is why I incautiously called you a "cretin": you may not be, but that was a cretinous comment.

Frankly, it surprised me a bit to see that coming from you- I'd expect much more from you buds like stormountain, who has done exactly that to me several times.

 

This is what is referred to as "word salad". It has a bunch of legitimate sounding stuff but doesn't congeal into anything meaningful. It's fairly common among the left, particularly artists, fiction writers, and other occupations that lack technical training. You rarely see this from economists, engineers, scientists, mathematicians, and other occupations where critical thinking is needed for their work.

One might consider that refusal to recognize that "shit happens" is a form of lacking vision. Though one need be at least as insightful as Forrest Gump to recognize it.

 

You just attacked Islam again. You did so back when you first started posting on here, and did so again by attacking their contract marriages. And you never want to talk about your own religion's supremacist ideology, which says you can murder people and steal their land and then ask Jesus for forgiveness before claiming you are blessed.

 

How many more would have died had he sent everyone in the whole country into a frenzied panic by not playing down what little was known at the time about the effects of the virus???

Hmmmm

If you believe losers and whatever story from the Atlantic then consider yourself "had". Doh.

The military industrial complex comment is a repeat of what an earlier president warned of. And was correct! Doh.

 

As obvious as that is to anyone with a brain who's paying attention, some people refuse to look closely enough to see it. If enough people remain or become disinterested, there will be crying and gnashing of teeth. Thank God for true patriots.

 

Thank you for a considered explanation of one of your earlier comments (that was not at all considered). Sorry, but I am not going to wade through scores of messages on this or other threads: I respond to comments more or less on a standalone basis. If you chose to link a comments you would like to bring to my attention, I will try to read it.

I do not know what you mean by Social Darwinism. I think you are keeping your utterances very “high level”, even abstract, because you do not want to do the hard thinking of applying general principles to actual situations. But if you bandy about loosely defined concepts, like Social Darwinism, you can quite nicely flatter yourself and demean others.

I also think, out of humanitarian motives that imbue people with a certain sense of moral virtue, that our technology is creating an enormous burden for the future. I do not know exactly what the answer is, but I am very confident that not all people should carry their genes forward. I would even go so far as to say that not all fetuses should come to term. And it’s reached a personal level: I have a daughter in law who just last year conceived a Down’s Syndrome.

Now Down’s Syndrome is hardly the worst of genetic abnormalities, and some of them can live happy lives, with the mental capacity of a five year old (absent the astonishing growth of normal five year olds). I offered my counsel that the fetus should not come to term. Not a happy decision, to be sure, one that you might call Social Darwinism. But such people are, at no fault of their own, burden’s to their families and their wider community. Many parents accept that burden, although most Americans just expect that their afflicted child will be supported by the wider society; I think it is wrong to do so. BTW, I would place a fetus at four months in a different category than a baby that comes to term: not everyone has that luxury.

No, I did not see Trud’s crude comment that “shit happens”. Nonetheless, bad things inevitably will happen. And more misery has resulted from, ostensibly at least, attempting to create a paradise on earth than a single human mind can imagine. Soviet Union- check. People’s Republic of China- check. Kampuchea- check. Venezuela- in progress. As a popular spin on Eric Voegelin’s thinking put it- “Don’t immanentize the eschaton”. Strange, no, that those most keenly avid to do so, allegedly out of a love for humanity, demonstrate a remarkable hatred for people as individuals. Throw in all the above checked regimes- now had antifa.

Moreover, I happen to believe that, as an adult, you are responsible for your life (all that I say here applies only to adults). Moreover, you have no right to demand that I act on your behalf; depending on who you are, how you got into a situation of need, and the resources I have at my disposal, I may choose to help you. But you, sir, or a whole gang of people of your persuasion, have no right to oblige me to act on anyone’s behalf (unless, of course, I have some contractual obligation to that person). And if I chose not to help in any particular situation, that does not mean I don’t “give a shit”, that I lack empathy or “vision”. Your conclusion simply does not follow from available evidence.

Do you understand that?

You seem to me to be under the illusion that you thoughts are profound. Sorry, but I find you to be rather shallow.

I may respond more to this, but for now I will attend to that biologically driven need known as supper.

srg

P.S. One of your earlier comments used the word "dribble". I think you meant "drivel". Perhaps you would care to educate yourself on the distinction between the two.