Federal troops in Portland

Tish, it is difficult to find it as most of these things are posted on YouTube and what not by the people and many news sources now are not publishing these things because saying it is still happening will just draw more to join in on the “fun”. The focus is on Portland and the clean up, removal of protesters from the big city, not on the suburbs. Good job persona, but no media coverage helps stop it as well, at least in the public’s eye.

but it is happening.

this is the best I can do for a reference at this time.

Oregon Activists Take Their Riots And Violence To The Suburbs, Then Residents Get Involved

but is it happening. Finding it again on YouTube is also Difficult because of their ranking system and might be considered adult content through google and YouTube.

 

errrm, ok. So in your view this is not extortion? If a gang walks into your business and says, give me 5 percent of your income or we will burn it down, smash and destroy your business, you think this is ok for someone else to dictate how you run your business and who you buy products from? These people are immigrants as well.... trying to build a life for their families, If that Cuban refugee decides to hire other refugees and help those who have been through similar struggles does skin colour matter? Do you hire the best you can get for positions or hire based on skin colour? In the USA a very long time ago there were people who only hired their own ethnicity. Family run businesses that are small hire family members, because it is cheaper to do so and allows them the opportunity to get off the ground. At least one of those businesses is a business that has not even opened yet. Most restaurants fail in the first year. Now they demand a percentage of his income through threats of violence. It was every business in the area, not just one as well.

gangs do this too and call it protection. It is extortion and a crime,

show me where your constitution says this is ok to threaten people if they don’t do as you say.

 

If it does, then rape is not a crime... murder is not a crime, burning buildings is not a crime, beating people for their money is not a crime, nor is beating people for a different point of view a crime. Cool huh? How about nothing is a crime and we become the animals that we are!

 

This is about protests current ones and what these protesters are demanding with violence.. You are not this dense. But if you want to pretend the riots are peaceful .., good luck to you, Hope they come peaceful protesting to your house.

 

No, I said it's incumbent on you to show involvement by the organization BLM in the Portland demonstations, which you haven't done. In the whitest city of the U.S., I don't think the marches are directed by the organization BLM. They are in sympathy with the message Black Lives Matter. Yes, I'd imagine if some of these people tried to carry their demonstrations to the suburbs (as usual, you provide no links) they'd encounter resistance. I'm surprised they made it out of there with their lives. If that happened, it only shows the foolishness of the demonstrators.

Yes, it's a shame there are organizations spewing racist nonsense. The Daily Stormer, GoAnimate for Schools, Rabb.it, etc are examples from the hard right. That's freedom of speech for you. If BLM is quoting from the discredited Communist Manifesto (See Raynond Aron, Opium of the Intellectuals), it is as out to lunch as the various neo-Nazi outlets quoting from Mein Kampf. But to credit BLM or any of the others with the influence you give it is a mistake.

 

Notice how all the lefties downplay the riots and violence by using the word “protest”

 

yes and it is funny. Tish said that the rioters split off from the blm protesters, I believe, Are blm suppose to be the peaceful ones in this scenario? I give him a link as to where these peaceful protesters went And how they were not peaceful, but this is just simply ignored. I do not know when violence and crime such as this became a peaceful protest.
Let’s say you were there and someone said, hey everyone follow me... and youfollow these peaceful leaders of the blm protest. Then you follow them to a store or a gate to a home and it is broken into.... everyone cheers.... yay! And this makes you a peaceful protester. Then they throw IEDs and everyone cheers some more... shining lasers in people eyes and you cheer some more. Cool, I will stick around and watch the fun and games or beatings, robberies and rapes, are you not a participant? Let’s go rob a bank! And everyone cheers! Let’s send out notices to small businesses and if they don’t give us a portion of their profits we will burn it to the ground.

But look at this... in one month they often exceeded crimes over a two year period. This is from https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/article/763191



Yeah the peaceful protests, It also shows that police responses went down during the last month. in other words there was no help to be had and crime went crazy. It had nothing to do with feds being in the court house, they are comparing 1 month to an entire 2 years, Lol. Peaceful protests. 1 month in Portland compared to two years, the number is a little less in one month so there for they say it is a -13 percent, Lol. And those are just the ones that managed to file a report about it. Peaceful protests. What a joke. 16 rapes in one month. Human trafficking, there was an abduction as well. But yay let’s abolish the police, they don’t even want to mention the murders.

they also put out a notice stating police would not be able to respond during the “peaceful protests”. Also if the feds caused the violence? What was there so much violence from May 28- June 28, 2020 when the feds were not present? They are not even posting July stats

to add OTHER SEX CRIMES is people who crossed state lines and committed a sex crime, rape, sexual assault, etc.

 

Notice how the righties play up the protests by using the words "riots" and "violence". By most accounts, the protests have been mostly peaceful, but there have been riots and violence--especially in response to Trump's stormtroopers.

 

It's August now. You're reporting a situation in the heat of the confrontation, from May and June. That badge looks very official. Assuming it is, what possible vested interest do you think the people preparing this report might have in making this case? I'm not particularly surprised that street crime might go up during a period of turmoil when the police are otherwise occupied. If indeed the police are failing to enforce the law because their feelings are hurt, that could certainly account for an upsurge in crime. As I've said many times before, defunding the police is one of the dumber ideas that has emerged from BLM, and one which I expect to have a very short shelf life.

 

but I thought you said the feds caused the violence in Portland. They were not even deployed to Portland from May 28 - June 28.
The next report will be from June 28- July 28. Give it time, they will get it together. It has been less than a week.

 

The feds escalated the violence in Portland. I've already given abundant links to support that conclusion. The police were previously trying to make a case to gain support. I am not about to take the time to do a statistical analysis on whether or not the alleged increased street crime in Portland was caused by the protests. Its up to you or them to do so, which you haven't done so far. To draw that conclusion is to commit the logical fallacy of post hoc, ergo propter hoc , like the rooster who takes credit for the sun coming up in the morning. As for your suburban invasion of Springfield, maybe its exaggerated or fabricated, like others made up by Identity Evropa or similar groups.
False antifa rumors about a suburban invasion take over neighborhood social media apps
In Klamath Falls, Oregon, victory declared over antifa, which never showed up
False antifa rumors about a suburban invasion take over neighborhood social media apps
41 Cities, Many Sources: How False Antifa Rumors Spread Locally
I am hereby abandoning this thread, since it's become a waste of my time. I'm sure we could spend the rest of our lives going on like this. Carry on!

 

yes please do, the stats I showed negate and will negate these speculative sources that called it a peaceful protests while all these Sources you read are far left sources. Shall we see what they said about the peaceful protests through June? It was never peaceful and the liar left sources are misleading the people, you, for political purposes 385% increase in fires alone means nothing in a month, lol Oh now that the feds are here 65 fires means nothing in June, they never happened and only started when trump arrived. Lol. Yes run from the facts.

 

Not that it matters, but Springfield is not a suburb of Portland. Distance: 103 miles.

 

Are you even capable of making one cogent argument to support your position?

You call that extortion? kiss my black ass

 

If they were burning Qurans instead of bibles. Rainbow LGBT flags instead of Old Glory, you’d demand the feds return to clean all the violence and fascism off the streets lol

https://nypost.com/2020/08/01/protestors-burn-bible-american-flag-as-tensions-rise-in-portland/

 

Burning the American Flag is protected speech according to SCOTUS