Federal troops in Portland

I ask you for a link. You give me a rant. You apparently cannont link the governor's statement you "quoted" for us earlier. You seem now to be saying the governor is saying exactly what Homeland Security is saying, and they are saying: "...Activity in the vicinity of the Mark O. Hatfield Federal Courthouse continues in an overall trend of diminishing violence as a result of the increased cooperation between state and federal law enforcement. In stark contrast to the intense weekend violence in Portland over the past two months, protests around federal property remained generally peaceful with only minor incidents of malicious activity." Nobody has said there is no violence but in the opinion of authorities on the scene, it seems to have diminished.

You've provided no evidence that BLM has made demands on local businesses that they will destroy them if they don't provide money. That would be extortion, and a serious crime, but all I have to back it up is your assertion. What's syour source for that?

 

As I said to you, please provide the links. No the URL of Portland Oregon.org was not enough for me, because the passage you supposedly quoted doesn't seem to appear there. If you have the link to the quote, it shouldn't be too hard to provide it.

 

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NuLu Business Association responds to protesters demanding more equity out of area

yes demanding a percentage of their income, Number 2

extorting money from small businesses, wow... small businesses tha5 are mom and pop shops, the must hire employees at a 25 percent must be black or African American. Isn’t that above the national average? I wonder how many other businesses were damage for not caving to these demands? 5% of income goes to blm

 

I guess I'll have to take your word for it, since the site you linked wants to access my location. Sounds kind shifty to me, and I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. But here's a source that says the claim is bogus and Seattle police have had to retract it. Police retract claims that Seattle's 'Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone' protesters tried to extort local businesses

 

You can simply click "NO" when it asks for your location.

Anyway, here's the material from that link:

LOUISVILLE, Ky. —

The NuLu Business Association is responding to the list of demands from protesters in Louisville.

During Friday's protest in the NuLu area fighting for justice for Breonna Taylor, protesters passed out a list of demands they want businesses to incorporate to include Black equity.


"Representation over tokenism, we want to see actual Black bodies in the spaces occupying NuLu, we want to see Black representation on the NuLu Association Board," said Janine Hogan.

The list includes having 23% Black staff and 23% Black representation on the NuLu Business association board.


Rick Murphy, the President of the NuLu Business Association President tells WLKY while he agrees with the message, he didn't like the approach.


"That was purely destructive in the way it was approached, it put people off rather than trying to include them," said Murphy. "They should meet with us, we don't know who they are."

He said the board met two weeks ago to discuss changes.


"But frankly we haven't been successful in attracting specifically Black-owned businesses," said Murphy.

It's why he said a separate committee was created which is being led by a Black member to focus on it.,

"We can fix the board problem this year, we can fix the training this year, we can fix a lot of this," Murphy told WLKY.


It comes as businesses in the area have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue, Murphy said, because of the lack of tourism, COVID-19 and protests. This past weekend, Rye closed its doors for good and Murphy said others could soon follow.

"We have a lot of them hanging on by a thread with loans, working off their credit cards," said Murphy.

Off camera, several of the business owners tell WLKY they are willing to make adjustments to be more inclusive.

 

In our little city the protestors' demand has been for marijuana . The Council may direct the police to make
illegal possession their lowest priority . Seems this will happen .

 

wow, I didn’t know that demands of political protests applied to small businesses. Are you able to buy products made by black only businesses? Are you able to give 5 percent to a black organization? Are you able to hire 25 percent black or African American employees? It is extortion when you threaten to damage someone business unless they meet the demands. Just like The mafia or other organized crime organizations who threaten your life and livelihood. no better than.

 

Oh, we're in Louisville now. Hard to keep up. Focus. people! Believe it or not, this thread isn't about BLM. You haven't even yet established a connection between BLM, the national organization, and Portland. If BLM chapters are making demands like these in Louisville or elsewhere, they're pushing the envelope. BLM right here in Oklahoma City came up with demands including opening a grocery store in the black part of town. People shook their heads. What grocer in his right mind would open a store in a neighborhood where the last one was burned down? In situations like these, we need to wait for the next shoe to drop. What comes next? Marches are okay, though probably ineffective. Burning things down or destroying property would be counterproductive, as well as criminal, for people seeking jobs. At the moment, the main thing BLM has going for it is sympathy after the death of George Floyd, but that will fade, and spokespersons for the movement will have to be careful not to push the envelope too far, lest it snap back in their faces. Meanwhile, the unrest in Portland seems to be dying down, and that's a good thing.

 

Seeing how so many of the arrested rioters, guilty of actual crimes, were let off free of charges, I'd say "Spoiled Brats" is the perfect descriptor.

Criminal charges against dozens of Portland protesters dropped

 

So Many...

 

Maybe the charges against them were unsustainable. Speaking of spoiled brats, you're from that area, or used to be. Are there large numbers of unemployed young people who have nothing better to do than demonstrate for sixty days, or is that what they do in their spare time. If I took off work to do that, I'd have been replaced weeks ago. Do they have that much vacation time and sick leave? What gives? I guess it's summer. The colleges and universities aren't in session, and you do have a number of them in Portland and in Seattle. I think I may have answered my own question.

 

Do you live under a bridge and harass goats?

 

I'd say you answered a small part of your question. I lived in Portland during Occupy in 2012. And yes, while there are lots of hard working, innovative, and creative people in Portland that gave the city great charm, it's also home to lots of people who have nothing better to do with their subsidized lifestyles than to roam around aimlessly, panhandle, and protest because they've got no jobs and don't wanna work. This is the side effect of Great Society policies like subsidized living. It created a class full of people who by and large vote Democrat, have more time to protest and make more noise than those of us who have careers and families to take care of. But I say it was all carefully created by design. Diabolically clever political strategy.

When I lived in Portland, I befriended this guy at a party who happened to be homeless and living on the system. I let him use my tiny studio apartment as a temporary place to crash when he needed shelter and a shower. I gave him some good job interview clothing so he could at present himself better. He had the abilities and skills make something of himself, but I later found out he willingly chose not to. After several weeks of him passing through and crashing at my place, it became apparent he was taking advantage of my kindness and being a freeloader. One day I came home to find him smoking heroine off a spoon in my apartment. A complete junkie he was. He even had the gall to ask me to lend him $200 after I kicked him out. Last I saw him, he was camping amongst the protesters at Occupy in the Park Blocks.

 

I just noticed your Troll had 6 eyes. Cute.

 

Records show at least 65 thus far. More to come. And these were not misdemeanours. At least 15 were dropped for serious felonies of starting fires when they had admitted to starting the fires... and so it goes. With due process and the courts being done remotely during COVID and the backlog this has created, many people are going to get off with crimes... including those charged with murder. They will be released.

also Interesting about helping that guy out, and very kind. When i started to read it, I thought, he is a junkie. 99.9 percent of homeless people are junkies have addiction problems as well as mental illness, It is not a homeless problem and not enough housing, it is an addiction and mental illness issue. Rather spend what they have to feed their addiction and unwilling to accept the help. You can’t force them to.

The camp that has been set up here in TO. The leader has a go fund me page, and she leaves the encampment at night and is staying at a hotel, paying 177 dollars a night and people are donating to this blm group, Really lame. These people are paid to do this shit, this is their livelihood, destroy, burn and steal plus funded to sleep at hotels.

 

Bullshit...

 

No, none of them were 'let off', it merely means that in each case, the Police had insufficient evidence to proceed with a court case !!!

 

yes when blm classes to education people on black culture, which their site use to post. These classes were run by Farrakhan as well and the nations of Islam. This is important to me that young people are being indoctrinated into the ramblings of a very racist organization. Further teachings are the communist manifesto. BLMs website often quotes directly from it by the way. Now white supremacist groups seems small in comparison.
These marches you said have nothing to do with blm. They have everything to do with BLM.
The ones who are said to remain peaceful, as they were driven out of the city core, they went into the suburbs actually, like springfield. Set up barricades, or barricades might have been set up to keep them out. They had confrontations with police and home owners in this area and others... what they did not expect was for people who lived there to come together and drive them out, before they could do more damage, but did do some.. They were surrounded by people who lived there on one side and police on the other, Happened in other suburbs around Portland too.