The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Frostys Bar in Ohio had more covid cases than the Tulsa rally
     
  2. Tishomingo

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    Is that where he got it?
     
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    How superspreading is fueling the pandemic — and how we can stop it
    “Any one of us could unknowingly be a superspreader.”
    By Katherine Harmon Courage
    Updated Jul 2, 2020, 4:02pm EDT

    How superspreading is fueling the pandemic — and how we can stop it

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    "We now know that, on average, people with the coronavirus infect about two other people and most actually pass the virus to just one other person, or to no one else at all.

    But some go on to infect many, many more, often before they even get symptoms. Many of these transmission chains begin with “superspreading” events, where one person (usually in a crowded indoor space) passes the virus to dozens of others. Early contact tracing studies suggest these events have been a large driver of transmission around the world. By some estimates, 10 percent of people have been causing 80 percent of new infections.

    This is one of the reasons experts are worried about large indoor events — more so than outdoor ones — causing large spikes in case numbers.

    Some of the largest superspreading events have happened aboard ships, including Navy carriers and cruise ships. But they are also happening on the ground in smaller settings, including at a church in Arkansas."
     
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    How superspreading is fueling the pandemic — and how we can stop it

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    "To understand what might kick off a superspreading event, let’s review some basics about how this virus, SARS-CoV-2, spreads. Researchers have found that it often spreads through microscopic droplets created when an infected person coughs or sneezes — or even speaks — and another person breathes them in. These disease-containing droplets are a large part of the reasoning behind staying at least 6 feet away from people and wearing a mask in public.

    But scientists are finding that the virus likely also spreads through even tinier, longer-lasting aerosols particles from breathing or speaking (or flushing a toilet). These are so small they can linger in the air after an infectious person has left — and may contain infectious virus particles for up to three hours. And they may be a key element to superspreading events: An infected person could seed a poorly ventilated indoor space with virus without even getting physically close to all the people they end up infecting.

    Superspreading also appears to be more likely with SARS-CoV-2 because people typically have the highest level of the virus in their system (making them infectious) right before they develop symptoms. (This is very different from other severe coronaviruses like SARS and MERS, where people were most infectious seven to 10 days after they started feeling sick, when they were more likely to be in isolation or in medical care.) So thousands of people with active Covid-19 infections continue to go about their lives not knowing that they could be spreading the disease."
     
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  5. Vanilla Gorilla

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    157, 898 deaths in the US so far

    How many of them got infected initially to reasons that had absolutely nothing to do with whether they were wearing a mask or not?

    80%?
    50%?
    20%?
    5%?

    Does anyone have any idea?

    How many of them do you think were following government advice at the time they got infected?

    The vast majority of them
     
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    How superspreading is fueling the pandemic — and how we can stop it

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    "But that means we can probably also avoid becoming a superspreader. How? By doing things we already know can limit the spread of the virus: “Wear a mask. Wash your hands. Keep your distance, and respect the physical space of others,” McGraw says.

    As the pandemic has worn on and become increasingly politicized, however, many people in the US are now resisting continued precautions, leading to mask rebellions, large gatherings — and much greater chances of new superspreading events.

    “I see an increasing number of people not wearing masks in public as restrictions ease,” McGraw says. “I find it disappointing. I worry that our focus on personal freedoms in the US, rather than being more community-minded, is going to prolong the outbreak and lead to more deaths than necessary.”"
     
  7. egger

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    Herman Cain posted "PEOPLE ARE FED UP!" about requirements for wearing face coverings the same day he was admitted to the hospital for the coronavirus.
     
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  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Nothing says "science" like a link to a July 2nd article from a women's magazine that itself links to one of its own May 4th articles where it interviewed a NYC contact tracers who has a feeling "10% of the people are causing 80% of the infections"

    ....or were 3 months ago in one city anyway

    Yay for "science"
     
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    Delays in the coronavirus relief package is another issue damaging Trump.

    The substance on a shingle keeps hitting the fan for Trump.



    Coronavirus stimulus: Extra unemployment benefits cannot restart for at least several weeks, experts warn
    Denitsa Tsekova
    August 1, 2020, 11:51 AM

    Coronavirus stimulus: Extra unemployment benefits cannot restart for at least several weeks, experts warn

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    "To simply restart the extra $600 now that they’ve expired would take up to five weeks, according to an estimate by the National Association of State Workforce Agencies (NASWA) provided to Yahoo Money by The Committee on Ways and Means.

    “A month is a pretty good bet,” Michele Evermore, senior policy analyst at the National Employment Law Project, told Yahoo Money.

    After Congress passes a deal, the Department of Labor would have to issue regulations that states implement. Each step of that process — starting with deadlocked negotiations — will require time.

    Meanwhile, the median decrease in unemployment benefits Americans will now see would range from 52% to 72%, according to an analysis by Evercore ISI provided to Yahoo Money."
     
  10. Flagme15

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    how many members in that organization, 2?

     
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    The loss of co-chair Herman Cain to the coronavirus he had belittled would bring it down to one (the chairperson).
     
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    Article from November 2019.


    The strange world of Black Voices for Trump
    The president only won a paltry 8% of the black vote in 2016, but the organisation has powerful friends – so who are the people on its advisory board?
    Poppy Noor
    Thu 21 Nov 2019 11.28 EST
    Last modified on Thu 21 Nov 2019 14.47 EST

    The strange world of Black Voices for Trump
     
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    Regardless of whether Cain contracted the coronavirus at Trump's Tulsa rally, of relevance is the irresponsible attitude of Cain and Trump toward risk mitigation of the coronavirus that puts themselves and others at risk.

    The general attitude could be embodied in a new Trump support group known as "Coronavirus Flouters For Trump!" (assuming it doesn't already exist).
     
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    With a membership that is mostly posthumous.
     
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    Trump is trying to retaliate against Germany after it declined in July to allow Russia into the G7.
     
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    Letters to the editor.



    Letters to the Editor: The cult of Trump is starting to inflict casualties. Just ask Louie Gohmert
    Los Angeles Times
    AUG. 2, 20203 AM

    Letters to the Editor: The cult of Trump is starting to inflict casualties. Just ask Louie Gohmert

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    "I hope some public service announcement is made that depicts what struggling for air sounds and looks like. This might make the suffering of COVID-19 patients more real to the uninfected.

    Please, wear a mask, not only to protect yourself but also to protect others. Believe me when I say that you do not want to be alone in a hospital experiencing this terror with no loved ones by your side.

    Robin Brigham, Valley Village"
     
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    Letters to the Editor: The cult of Trump is starting to inflict casualties. Just ask Louie Gohmert

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    "To the editor: By attending the Trump rally in Tulsa, Okla., on June 20, one could posit, Herman Cain took a bullet for the president.

    What could be riskier for a 74-year-old man than traveling to a crowded rally in a coronavirus hot spot? He sat in an indoor venue with no social distancing and few people wearing masks. Although we don’t know for sure where Cain contracted the virus that ultimately killed him, the outcome was almost as sure as a bullet.

    Something good could come of this tragedy. As a tribute to his friend, the president

    Arthur L. Wisot, MD, Rolling Hills Estates"
     
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    A blogger said that Barr and Bannon look like they woke up on the wrong side of the gutter.
     
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