2020 Election

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  1. Eagles

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    You see, this is what the left does consistently. If you want to bring up the dirty laundry of every candidate that has come through the pipeline, that's possible. What you are doing here is creating smoke and a narrative so that you won't have to address the issue at hand. You refuse to talk about President Trump's policies because you know that they work for the country. We can always talk about Biden's deal with Ukraine and other countries if you like, as well as other issues, but that's not sticking with what this President has done for this country and it doesn't help in moving things forward. For that reason, I choose to ignore, and will not respond to, those types of questions. I'm talking about President Trump's policies. That's all. Sorry if that disappoints you.
     
  2. Flagme15

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    Here goes, 'muricans don't want to pay a high price for a given product. Consequently, 'murican corporations go off shore, where labor is cheaper, to have said product made. Do you seriously think that a product made in this country will cost the same as one made off shore?

    Good question.
     
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    So much of your material is right out of the ozone, course so is Trump’s. So much of what he has done, with a lot of help from Republicans, has divided this country and weakened our society. The consistent lack of empathy, and continual dearth of ethics ands up to an international disgrace. No sane person could say this nation’s response to covid is anything other than an intentional disaster. The unchecked greed and hate reminds me of the dinosaurs run amok in Jurassic Park.
     
  4. Eagles

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    Calling Americans "muricans" is an insult, disrespectful and disgusting. Phrase your question more appropriately and I'll answer. I'll be off for a while to give you time to think about how you see Americans and to give you time to phrase your question differently..
     
  5. Flagme15

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    exactly what the republicans do.

    As do you

    Refuted, but the burden of proof is on you.
    more deflecting
     
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  6. scratcho

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    haha. Just as I thought. Name several of Herr trumps policies that have benefited the citizenry, please.
     
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    'muricans who support, or voted for trump don't deserve my respect.
    You sound like trump asking for loyalty. Sorry, pero no es posible..
     
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    Fine... That huge tax break for corporations and billionaires. How's that workin out for ya?


    Seems to be the only "good thing" he's done in 4 years and it's not good for the country, just for himself and his wealthy donors. So, please 'splain how this benefits the whole of the country...
     
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    Well, there is a script to follow you know. Just repeat how wonderful and effective Herr trump is and how awful, crooked dems are and want to make everyone commies or some such. Gets more ridiculous by the day as do his lovers.
     
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    Buffoons! One of my favorite words! How fitting.
     
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  14. erofant

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    Why don't you take a look at what radical right-wing media has been saying. They equate anything other than REPUBLICAN boiler-plate to hell-spawn straight from Satan. Get a grip on reality.



    When has the U.S. been stable and prosperous?? REPUBLICAN Ronald Reagan opened the door to "globalization" when he made the speech on national TV that, "We're going to turn our economy from a manufacturing-based economy to a service-based economy. (service-based means clerking in stores of all kinds, restaurants, food services of all kinds, data management, numbers-crunching, etc. Basically get rid of most of our manufacturing of anything.) "So-called U.S. companies" couldn't leave fast enough. Thank REPUBLICAN RONNIE REAGAN for starting it all.

    Under George H.W. Bush the U.S. slid into a recession and things were going downhill fast. Went to war with Iraq over it's invasion of Kuwait (really about oil in the Middle East.) Iran-Contra lies & cover-up also led to mistrust of George H.W. Bush. That caused him to lose the election to Bill Clinton.

    Under Democrat Bill Clinton, their were jobs everywhere and pay was rising. The 90's were booming. Stock market reaching record highs. I know - because I've had money in it for decades. REPUBLICANS made a huge deal out of Bill Clinton getting head from Lewinski. (Classic hypocrisy - as will be demonstrated in a few more lines below.)

    Then under George W. Bush, he went to war with Iraq claiming they had "weapons of mass destruction" and were about to use them. Later Bush said Saddam Hussein "tried to kill my dad." Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11, but Bush & Cheyney lied & tied Saddam Hussein to 9-11 to get a war with Iraq. Bush's "mission accomplished" banner on that ship was another lie and we're still in Iraq. George W. Bush / trickey-Dickey Cheyney also de-regulated the financial industry. With weakened or eliminated financial watchdog agencies to protect the American people's savings and investments, we got had pirates & crooks fleecing and robbing people's retirement savings, college savings, home down-payments, etc. Wall Street and investment banks were "bundling", selling and trading those home mortgage "bundles" like they were regular stock securities. That caused the mortgage / financial meltdown of 2007 under George W. Bush.

    Democrat Barrack Obama comes in having to straighten out the financial MESS & DEEP RECESSION left by George W. Bush. He and his Fed Chairman, along with other financial and mathematical heavyweight brains got the country to pull out of the recession and saved the U.S. from a complete depression. (He listened to and then took the advice of his financial and mathematical experts).The economy was trending upward when his two terms were up. Obama also made the decision and gave the OK on the highly dangerous raid to go after Osama Bin Laden. AND - the U.S. got Bin Laden and killed him in his Pakistani hideout.

    Now enter Donald J. Rump. Rump - the "godly, Christian man" as the Evangelicals claimed - though he's been married several times, had numerous affairs, and was caught on tape saying he "just grabs 'em by the pussy." And he also said he "moves on 'em like a bitch. I just go up to them and start kissing them. I don't even wait." (This is the hypocrisy referred to above. NO REPUBLICANS ever uttered a word about RUMP'S lurid behaviors - but were quick to condemn Clinton's).

    After lying about Obama's birthplace for months, Rump has systematically tried to erase all of Obama's presidency - which he'll NEVER do. Rump and THE REPUBLICANS in Congress engineered a H-U-G-E tax break for big corporations, multi-millionaires, and multi-billionaires to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars.- giving little tiny tax breaks to the avg. American. Rump's Russian connections have been well-documented through his cronies Manafort, Stone, Flynn, Wiki-Leaks et al. Remember Rump asked on national TV for Russia to steal Hillary Clinton's e-mails to help him win the election by digging up dirt on her. So Rump fires all the investigators and U.S. attorneys who were investigating his illegal, criminal activities and Russian ties. The he installs a puppet loyalist in William Barr to head the "Dept. of Justice" who covers all of Rump's tracks for him. Rump pardon's Flynn, Commutes Stone's sentence after being convicted by a jury on EVERY one of 7 FELONY counts. Cover-up man Cohen got out of jail - only to violate terms of his freedom - now he's back in jail. I believe it's 22 people in Rump's inner circle that have been convicted of crimes, and many have been pardoned by Rump .GIGANTIC C-O-R-R-U-P-T-I-O-N.

    Rump takes NO STAND when Russia invades and annexes former Soviet territory. ( Opposite of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. ) His "buddy" Putin has the goods on Rump. Pee-pee tape?? Talks tough with N. Korea but does nothing to stop N. Korea's nuclear missile program.

    Then the corona virus hits and Rump says "It's only one guy from China. We have it all under control." Then it was "only 15 people, and we have it contained. Nothing to worry about. We have it all under control." Then came the denials of the seriousness of the Covid-19 virus, "it's just a flu - no big deal", and all the other mocking denials of expert medical advice from Fauci, Redfield, Frieden, and all the rest of the world-wide infectious disease experts. Rump chose to "go with his gut" instead. Rump made the U.S. #1 in something ...................... Covid-19 cases and deaths in the entire world. Rump blames everyone else and takes NO responsibility for the explosion of Covid cases. Rump demands everything be "opened up again" to make his poll numbers look good - caring nothing about the citizens he's sworn to protect. The economy is in a BIG recession again - under REPUBLICAN leadership. Other countries around the world that locked down their countries and enforced the masks / social distancing rules have rebounded to almost normal conditions with very FEW cases popping up now. Rump's denials and lack of morals has turned the U.S. into an international disgrace for Covid-19 handling.

    Add to that Rump's attacks on our ALLIES (!!!) around the world, NATO, withdrawing from climate treaties and allowing more & more pollution. Rump's tariffs have hurt U.S. farmers and other industries as well. He lied about who would pay those tariff fees, saying China and others would pay them. LIE. We pay them whenever we buy something here by paying higher prices. The "wall" that he was going to make Mexico pay for ...............another joke and lie. Our TAX MONEY is paying for it ......................... and one of Rump's crony buddies got a billion+ dollar contract for building a section of wall that is falling down because it was built too close to the Rio Grande River !!!!!!!!!!

    Sound like a good president to you???????????????????

    How about the last 3 REPUBLICAN presidents ............................ where did they put the U.S. ???? Big recessions, loss of M-I-L-L-I-O-N-S of U.S. jobs, war, corruption, and H-U-G-E tax breaks for the richest people and big corporations.
     
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    I'm using "knuckle-draggers" a lot these days...
     
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  16. unfocusedanakin

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    Is it too late to try our for the Australian gymnastics team? You are making some great mental leaps here I think you got a shot at the gold.

    I suppose for a Trump voter like you gender equality would be bad. Oddly in ancient cultures women often had all kinds of respect. It's not a new concept, going back to the vikings and before they do hold up half the sky and they are the mothers and wives of the men so they give love and life. Biden is not reinventing the wheel.
     
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  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Pretty much the same mistake Hillary made, Trump was talking about jobs, She was talking about gender bathrooms


    You'll have half the country broke by November, Trump will be talking about the economy and jobs, Biden will be talking about gender equality and climate change

    ......because he thinks the 30% of young people that bother voting will care more about climate change than having been out of work since March, in November
     
  18. unfocusedanakin

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    Well climate change is very important. In that example Biden is 100% correct. Trump can't do short or long term but his cult like you demands short term only.
     
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    Blah blah blah, we can worry about no country being able to reach the Paris accord targets later

    2020/2021 is about getting people back to work, paying back the money we threw down the toilet in March and April
     
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