The not so magnificent seven Mugshots of the seven men arrested for allegedly using Nazi salutes, racial slurs toward a black family at an Oregon beach.
When I say "science" , I'm talking about a process of rigorous empirical testing of refutable hypotheses and publication of the findings in peer reviewed journals, exposing them to the critical attention of others in the field. If you can pull out dozens of opposing theories of evolutionary biology, why don't you? I've never seen you produce any evidence or links for the crap you post.
"The last one" presumably refers to the article "Is there a gene for racism?" It summarizes a debate on the subject held at Duham University. One of the speakers was Robin Dunbar, professor of evolutionary psychology at Liverpool University, who is arguing that selection for cooperation acts at the level of the group." This is a controversial point, at variance with the stance taken by Richard Dawkins, but one I agree with. E.O. Wilson argues that even before the evolution of humans in their present form humans developed separate, competing modules for competitive and cooperative behavior. How do you see this as contradicting what I am "attempting to convey"--which is that race is a social construct. The statement has nothing to do with race.
" That's harsh. I don't think Gloomy is that type of racist. In fact he doesn't think he's a racist at all, since he claims not to think that his race is superior to others. I doubt that's true, and I think he meets a common definition of racism: "the belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability". racist I don't doubt his sincerity. My concern, though, is that he sincerely believes in a false and dangerous idea which he thinks he has acquired through personal observation and experience, or what he calls his "research". This has the potential of feeding a sickness that is very much at play in our society and the world at large, and has the potential of tearing both apart.
Perhaps you're right and I'm just reading between the lines of what he writes, and what I believe to be his true motivation, which is hate. If you believe in the sincerity of his words, that is your right, but I'm just not willing to grant him that much latitude
I don't know.. I mean, do we really need to capitalize White? No, I'm not being hateful... I just think that although on the surface it's being done for the sake of equality, it really only needed to be done for Black or Brown. I suppose one equality is just as good as another...
I'm trying to understand what you consider "research"and why you've included a bunch of articles critical of science. Science , like all human endeavors, has its limitations, but it seem to me to be the best we've got in gaining reliable information about reality. I submit that it's far superior to your subjective impressions. Your articles seem designed to call science into question. Let's take them off the top: 1. Scientists are Wrong More Than You Think, by a doctoral student at Princeton.The author is explaining that there is a finite probability that a relationship supported by a high correlation occurred by chance. One possible solution would be replication, which unfortunately happens all too infrequently. Now what does this have to do with racism? Apparently, Gloomy's idea is to nullify the scientific consensus that there are no genetic linkages between race and human behavior, or to put them on such a questionable footing that Gloomy's personal research which appears to have no clear methodology can be considered on a par with or maybe superior to the empirical findings of scientists. 2. "Science gets more wrong than right--And that's All Right". This article points out that most published papers contain mistakes, mostly trivial ones, and that these have negligible impact in the long run. 3. "Is political correctness damaging science?"; and 4. "Is Political Correctness Ruining Academic Journals? The first article deals with problem that some ideas are hard to get past the scientific peer review process because they are so at variance with accepted beliefs. Yes, Virginia, scientists do have their biases, eugenicists have a rough time getting their work published. The second article, in the libertarian Reason magazine, talks about the ease of getting hoax articles accepted in marginal social science journals if the authors use the right jargon. There are low grade peer review journals at the fringes of the social sciences that will publish about anything. Readers must use judgment and discernment about their information sources, just as they must do with media sources. Given the harm that racism can do to a society and individual lives, I submit that Gloomy should bear the burden of proof for his "research".
Amy Cooper Faces Charges After Calling Police on Black Bird Watcher A white woman who called the police and falsely accused a Black man of threatening her life after he asked her to put her dog on a leash will face misdemeanor charges, the Manhattan district attorney announced Monday. “Today our office initiated a prosecution of Amy Cooper for falsely reporting an incident in the third degree,” said Cyrus R. Vance, the Manhattan district attorney. “We are strongly committed to holding perpetrators of this conduct accountable.” Ms. Cooper was issued a desk appearance ticket and will be arraigned on Oct. 14. If convicted, she could be given a conditional discharge or sentenced to community service or counseling rather than jail time While it’s clear she’ll only receive community service, losing that lucrative job as head of insurance portfolio management at Franklin Templeton IMHO is punishment enough.
That doesn't prove your point that behaviors are linked to race. The relationship of disease to race-based behavior is tenuous, and racial propensities for certain diseases don't prove behavioral linkage. Also, race may be a proxy for class. African-Americans are over-represented among socioeconomically disadvantaged groups (for example, they have 2.5 times the poverty rate of white Americans); adjusting racial disparities in health for indicators of class greatly reduces (and in some instances, entirely eliminates) the racial differences. Poorer diet and greater exposure to environmental hazards may account for the differences. Re the superior sports ability stereotype: https://scholarworks.wmich.edu/cgi/...tpsredir=1&article=1027&context=hilltopreview Athletic Blacks vs Smart Whites: Why Sports Stereotypes Are Wrong | HuffPost The issue is not physiological difference but behavioral linkages. I'm impressed. You really have gone into this! You really are a racist, or perhaps we should say racialist! It's obviously a really important issue for you. I'm glad you don't mind being called one. But a bit thin on the behavioral differences. Needless to say, some of your sources , especially Rushton, are quite controversial. I'll try to address some of he issues in his research later. What would you do if a black family moved in next to you? Would that be a problem for you?
The plot thickens. What gave you the clue that the seven men--Ruslan Tkachenko, Antoliya Kadankova, Andrei Zaitsau, Gennady Kadankova, Yuri Kadankova,and Oleg Locust--were Russian? Are they Russian nationals? If so, or even if not, what were they doing giving Nazi salutes and harassing black people in the good ol' USA? Trying to start something? Pretty cocky, those Russians!
I haven't read the book, but physical anthropologist Jonathan Marks describes it as "make-believe genetics applied to naively conceptualized groups of people." Opinion | A Feckless Quest for the Basketball Gene Vat a bold statment, Herr Gloomy. You'll need lots of supporting evidence for zat one. Zen you get to be leader of ze bund, if you're not already.
Jimmy John’s Employees Fired After Making Noose Out of Bread Dough Four workers from a Jimmy John’s in Georgia have been fired over a viral video of them playing and joking around with a noose made out of bread dough. The video, which features a “Happy 4th of July” filter, shows one of the workers putting the fake noose over another’s neck. “We have zero tolerance for racism or discrimination in any form,” Jimmy John’s wrote in a tweet. “The franchisee has taken immediate action and the employees have been terminated. The actions seen in this video are completely unacceptable and do not represent the Jimmy John’s brand.” Customers took to social media to voice their outrage, calling the video “racist” and “hateful.”
Good. I was wondering whether or not you'd be dragging American Renaissance or the American Identity Movement into it. Your citation of Jensen and Rushton pretty much says it all about where you're coming from. Their work has been criticized as racialist, if not racist, and both have been influential in the revival of "scientific racism" in the 1980s and after. I brought up American Renaissance because both men seemed to be involved with it and promoted by it. Both, of course, are widely regarded as charlatans, but their writings are accepted as articles of faith by the Alt right, Stormers and other Neo-nazis. I'm wondering how you got into this. You say you were raised by parents who weren't racial bigots. Yet you're obviously steeped in racialist ideas and information to a degree that goes beyond idle curiosity and seems to involve some passion. Did you have a bad experience with African Americans that set you on this path?
Ordinarily, when a person delves that deeply into "the truth", especially in a racialist direction, something besides idle curiosity is motivating him. Those books and articles aren't light summer reading. How did you become interested in it?
