Socialism Is The Future

Again ignorant, it is called Being Innu. Some person who uploaded it called it a innu people: tribe in Canada on YouTube, Probably one of your buddies, Not what it is called, nor what they call themselves. It is a band. Not tribe!

 

Socialism?

 

So you asked, "do you still believe in trickle down economics, really?".
Your agenda is to get me to answer either affirmatively or negatively so that you can then box me into some kind of stereotype and attack that, your motivation is to discredit me by setting that kind of trap that you're so insistent I fall into. That's not how debate works. Not if you're sincere, anyway.
Your phrasing of the question suggests that only an ignoramus or idiot would answer in the affirmative anyway, showing your foregone conclusion.

You asked that based on something I said. I stand behind that premise. If you're half the man you seem to think you are, counter the premise and stop trying to discredit me by tying me to some catch phrase. I mean, come on, you haven't even defined what your meaning of it is!!! Sheesh!

So get real or get stuffed, your call.

 

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So do you believe in trickle down economics or what?

Seems like a pritty simple question.

Your premise seemed to imply that wealth trickles down so that is why i asked the question if that is not what you meant what did you mean?

 

What a bizarre answer. You're equating tribalism with theocracy? And talking about it being a system in which imams rule? Imams are Muslim. There are plenty of examples of Christian theocracy in history, and present day theocrats who are Christian. As for Mother Earth, the waters,the sun, etc. being living entities, that kind of primitive animism is as old as the cave men, but it's simply your own religious opinion, not widely shared by others today.

 

We in Oklahoma prefer the term "nation", but we're talking essentially about ethnic groups united by a sense of community based on language, shared customs, history and culture. My Chickasaw nation has an affinity with the other four "Civilized tribes" originally from the agrarian peoples of primarily "Mississippian" descent from (originally) the southeastern U.S. The identity is somewhat fluid, but it wasn't created by Europeans.

 

ok. I won't praise Marx then... But do we throw out the baby with the bathwater? I think socialism as a goal holds plenty of promise; Marx aside!

 

OMG.....nobody but nobody has done more to create hate and divide people than Trump. Peace and love ain’t gonna grow and thrive until Republicans stop spraying it with Roundup.

 

I couldn't disagree more. People are ultimately much too self-interested for socialism ever to be viable. There's just no motivation for people to distribute their excess wealth with the masses.

 

Trump has changed his mind about Socialism. Now he says that he is all for giving us another $1200. I just love Socialism.

 

That’s why incentives to prevent predatory capitalism are needed....like a stiff progressive income tax, limiting intergenerational wealth accumulation with an inheritance tax and most of all scrubbing our legal system of all the loopholes and perks for wealthy people at the expense of the rest of us. We don’t have unbiased capitalism, we have unlimited socialism for for those already wealthy. Many other nations have done better.

 

'Fraid it won't wash. "The others" were people outside the tribe. Before the Europeans came, my people, for example, fought with the Caddo, Cherokee, Choctaw, Iroquois, Menominee, Potawatomi, Quapaw,and Shawnee. When the Europeans brought us guns, we fought more!

In what ways?

Sounds like Trump.

 

Yes that would be nice, it seems like Few knows what it is, but I will say that socialism likes to tell people how to think collectively, like vlad there! Collective thought and dictating!

It is a policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.

Karl Marx says it is a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.

Which really explains a lot regarding blm and antifa insignias. Also explains Obama’s poster done up like Che Guevara’s poster who was a communist and then there is obama who was also buddies with Castro. Obama was happy to befriend Castro, a brutal dictator while ignoring Puerto Rico’s struggle. Remember Obama’s Reset with Russia in 2009? His goal was to open the door and improve relations with Russia from the start. Dmitry Medvedev temporarily took over the presidency from Vladimir Putin, Obama turneD a blind eye to Russia’s war with georgia, This was an opening move to destabilize Europe, also ignored them when they invaded the Ukraine, Crimean oil this thing, and hunter Biden is given a position For an oil and gas company there. But when he lost the election, in December 2016 he turned against Russia to make a stand that was just BS grandstanding.

the clenched fist was first used in 1848 during the French Revolution symbolizing strength, determination and will to fight. Lots of slaughter there.

then you can look at the Antifaschistische Aktion flag of antifa in the USA. red united front who were pro Stalin. We know what a slaughter house that brought about. Hey but let’s do it again, what do you say? All for the idea of utopia. I am sure Vlad likes this idea.

read the communist manifesto by Karl Marx.

in 1846 many crops failed in Europe, 50 countries were effected. this led to supply problems and food shortage. Then this lead to a high price on food, potato famine too, Civil unrest. With this virus lock down and what not, we will see a shortage of food as well. Price of food in Canada have increased and crops, workers are failing as well. This all seems to be by designer me,

the USA economy was doing well under trump from my understanding, but all of this will change that in the upcoming election. The virus, the riots, etc. I don't know, it all seems to be by design. Canada is doing a lot worse than the USA is currently by the way. Financially we are Big trouble. Trudeau’s lavish spending isn’t helping matters either. Interested in everyth8ng outside of here. The budget will balance itself he says.

socialist movements are bringing countries down further. Civil unrest, all by design and intentional imo. All to win and the cost of All lives do not matter,,

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I think it's a waste of time to respond to your mostly incoherent and uninformed ramblings. You continue to attempt to link BLM to Socialism without any rational basis for doing so., rave on about Obama dressed like Che Gueverra, (apparently a reference to a fake poorly photoshopped photo that circulated on social media Did the Obamas Wear Che Guevara Shirts During a Cuban Trip?), then talk about Obama turning a blind eye to Russia's war with Georgia which happened before he was even elected President, ignore Trump's blind eye to Russia's bounty for killing U.S. soldiers, bring in the famine of 1846 and just about anything else that pops into your head. Such opinions have no value. I've heard more cogent analysis from bar stools. And what's the deal with substituting the number 8 for letters which you seem to do in several posts? I don't think you're a troll, but you might as well be.

 

you don’t think blm is socialist, comrade? You don’t think they are paid for by the far extremist left?

The national fundraisers for blm is handled by Susan Rosenberg. Who is a convicted terrorist and one who bill clinton had released from prison. She was an integral part communist terrorist group that had carried out bombings in New York and Washington, D.C., in the 80”s. .

Rosenberg’s involvement with the May 19 Communist Organization, which carried out its bombing campaign to create a contrast to former President Ronald Reagan’s campaign promises and bring about civil unrest. She was on the FBI’s Most Wanted. She was arrested in New Jersey while unloading 740 pounds of stolen explosives and a sub-machine gun from a truck.

Rosenberg was released from prison in 2001 after Serving just 16 years. Her sentence was 58 years originally, he got her out to help with creating more civil unrest. Yeah cool.

p.s. try to keep personal insults out of it, if you can? Doesn’t seen you can. As for replacing I with 8. On an iPad, if you hit a top row Letter and you finger sides down it is replaced with a number,

 

I understand that Rosenberg was a member of the Weather Underground and was convicted of the crimes you mention. That by no means connects BLM to "Socialism'--unless it's by the syllogism: Rosenberg is a Socialist (yet to be established), Rosenberg fund raises for BLM. Therefore BLM is Socialist. That would be a non sequitor, a logical fallacy Makes no sense. If it should happen to be true that any BLM members are Socialists, so what? That doesn't mean all or most Socialists are like BLM or like Susan Rosenberg. Your case is based on free association. I would guess that Rosenberg and many BLM members are Socialists or lean toward Socialism. They may be Socialists of a particular kind, that kind being different from the Bernie Sanders style democratic socialism. In any event, discussion of BLM seems to be off the track in unerstanding whether or not Socialism is the Future. (BTW, as I've previously made clear, I'm not a Socialist, so don't call me Comrade.) Your whole line of thinking harkens back to the McCarthy era when people were suspected of being Communists for reading Nation magazine. I'm about done with you, since your thoughts are too jumbled for meaningful discourse.

 

You don’t think they are far left, socialist communist neo Marxist?

socialism refers to a broad range of theoretical and historical social economic systems and has also been used to describe themselves and their goals.

you think the Susan Rosenberg has changed her ways? She wants to completely abolish prisons today. What better way than to completely get rid of police?

And I suppose the given out of guns at chop/chaz by blm leaders of it in seattle means nothing as well? The burning of buildings and The creation of civil unrest is completely a coincidence with funding provided for by such a person?

Simply renounce violence anD you are pardoned, But hey, how about you fund terrorists instead and shape the minds of young people with the rhetoric.

and then there is obama who is also connected to the weather underground and Bill Ayers. Yes they were on several boards together, and bill ayers held a fundraiser in his home, to which obama attended....Micheal Obama worked with his wife as well at the same law firm. Ya! No reason to think civil unrest and terrorist acts would be approved of on the left while associating with extremists, bombing killers and giving out pardons to them. Carry on comrade.

 

Of course black lives matter is Marxist

 

Yep and what people think is left, in voting for democrats is not CenteR these days., is actually far left and the Center line shifts, more and more extreme as more and more Are follow this indoctrination of extremists and promotion of violence. In 4 days 3 people shot in chaz/chop. Not to mention the other assaults and violence that went on there.

see it is weird. Karl Marx never referred to socialism. He did refer to communism. There was a socialist calculation debate, which served as a reference as to how a socialist economy would perform economic calculation given the absence of the law of value and the removal of the rights to property ownership. Communism changed its name. It strives for government control and slavery in the end, forced labour. dictatorship of the proletariat As Karl Marx and Engels approved of, were in favour of. Requires a one party government and a dictatorship is formed. Everyone must do their part and work in the end for it. Forced labour for food. Will work for food. I see those signs a lot. More of a struggle. The farmers as chop/chaz did a great job.

they had free food and everything..., That was for sale. Lol. That someone worded for and picked, planted, but they did not,... and a pile of dirty clothes laying on the ground you could help yourself to.

I loved the socialist garden they set up and the sign that effectively said no whites allowed for the most part. No food for white people, Black peoples garden only.

 

Evidence?