The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. egger

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    Trump is using the riots in Minneapolis to bash its mayor.

    Trump threatened to send in the national guard which had already been sent in.



    Trump: "When the looting starts, the shooting starts"
    CBS News
    Updated on: May 29, 2020 / 8:40 AM / CBS/AP

    Trump: "When the looting starts, the shooting starts" - CBS News

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    "The quote the president tweeted — "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" — was said by former Miami Police Chief Walter Headley during a December 1967 news conference, according to The Washington Post.

    Miami had a long history of aggressive policing. The Post said that quote was cited by a national commission as a contributing factor in rioting that broke out in the mostly black Liberty City section of Miami in August 1968.

    An accompanying tweet from Mr. Trump sharply criticized Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey: "I can't stand back & watch this happen to a great American City, Minneapolis. A total lack of leadership. Either the very weak Radical Left Mayor, Jacob Frey, get his act together and bring the City under control, or I will send in the National Guard & get the job done right....."

    The National Guard had already been called in at the time."
     
  2. Flagme15

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    Remember when people said that his impeachment would cause him to tone down his rhetoric. . . . . . . . .
    neither do I.
     
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  3. Flagme15

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    I don't believe that a president has any control over a national guard unless he federalizes them. That was done in 2004 to help the people who were affected by Hurricane Katrina. However, this was done to keep the peace. trump cannot order offensive military action on us soil. That is in direct violation of the constitution.
     
  4. 6-eyed shaman

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    Watch as this post gets erased in irony
     
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    Suddenly you guys pretend to care about the constitution
     
  11. Flagme15

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    so you don't?
     
  12. 6-eyed shaman

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    I don’t pretend to care
     
  13. egger

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    In a Friday Night At The Fights episode, Trump escalates his fights against China, the World Health Organization, the mayor of Minneapolis, and Twitter.



    Trump announces unprecedented action against China
    By Nicole Gaouette and Maegan Vazquez, CNN
    Updated 5:36 PM ET, Fri May 29, 2020

    Trump announces unprecedented action against China - CNNPolitics


    Trump announces end of US relationship with World Health Organization
    By Jason Hoffman and Maegan Vazquez, CNN
    Updated 4:53 PM ET, Fri May 29, 2020

    Trump announces end of US relationship with World Health Organization - CNNPolitics


    Trump confronts a culture war of his own making as election looms
    The president finds himself torn between his longtime promotion of law enforcement and his desire to win over black voters.
    By GABBY ORR and LAURA BARRÓN-LÓPEZ
    05/29/2020 04:08 PM EDT

    Trump confronts a culture war of his own making as election looms
     
  14. egger

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    Trump is Yosemite Sam blowing off his guns randomly in all directions in frustration after being repeatedly outsmarted by Bugs Bunny.
     
  15. egger

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    The President, the Military and Minneapolis: What You Need to Know
    by Mark Nevitt
    May 29, 2020

    The President, the Military and Minneapolis: What You Need to Know

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    "Can Trump Use the Military to Respond to Minneapolis?

    Yes, but this is subject to certain, critical legal restrictions under both the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act. The president is, of course, the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces, but he lacks the authority to use the military in any manner that he pleases. That authority is constrained by Congress and the courts.

    Under the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, Congress has limited the president’s ability to use the federal (title 10) military in domestic law enforcement operations such as searches, seizures, and arrests. A criminal statute, the Posse Comitatus Act makes it unlawful for the Army or Air Force to “execute the laws . . . except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress.” So, the president cannot simply call in federal military forces or nationalize the Minnesota National Guard to quell the civil disturbance in Minneapolis without pointing to a Posse Comitatus Act exception.

    The Insurrection Act is, by far, the Posse Comitatus Act’s most important exception. This is the legal key that unlocks the door to use federal military forces—whether through federalizing the National Guard or calling in “title 10 forces” to quell civil unrest. Dating from 1807, there are three key Insurrection Act provisions worth addressing. "
     
  16. egger

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    Trump used the phrase 'when the looting starts, the shooting starts' and later blamed others for what he claims is a misinterpretation of his remark.



    The President, the Military and Minneapolis: What You Need to Know

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    "What are the rules for the use of force? Does looting justify shooting?

    No. Federal military forces responding to civil unrest comply with Standing Rules for the use of Force (SRUF). These rules are generally less permissive than Standing Rules of Engagement (SROE) that the military uses in operational environments overseas and more traditional military missions. Both sets of rules are promulgated via the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and tailored to the individual mission. To be sure, these rules governing the use of force are policy guidance, but they reflect the complex strategic, legal, and morality issues that are in play whenever the U.S. military uses force on our own soil.

    While the rules of force for a military domestic operation will be tailored to the unique mission in coordination with the state law enforcement agency and governing state law, certain core principles remain constant. For example, force is to be used only as a last resort, and the force used should be the minimum necessary. Further, deadly force is to be used only when all lesser means have failed or cannot be reasonably employed.

    Of course, the rules for the use of force do not limit the inherent right of self-defense of people. It also authorizes force—to include deadly force—to protect three specified assets: (1) assets vital to national security (such as nuclear command and control facilities); (2) inherently dangerous property (such as missiles, rockets, and explosives); and (3) national critical infrastructure (such as designated public utilities). None of these appear to apply in Minnesota.

    Using deadly force aggressively to stop looting clearly violates the governing rules for the use of force, principles of de-escalation, and the principles of using only minimum force, as a last resort."
     
  17. egger

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    In another one of his typical wind vane changing moments, as the Minneapolis unrest ensues, Trump is trying to pander to Blacks who are roughed up by the police or others after making remarks that sounded like he was encouraging the police to be rough on suspects.



    Trump to police: 'Please don't be too nice' to suspects
    He made the comments during a speech to law enforcement officers today.
    By MEGHAN KENEALLY
    July 28, 2017, 6:39 PM

    Trump to police: 'Please don't be too nice' to suspects
     
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  18. Vanilla Gorilla

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    It's quite the paradox for you lefties isn't it

    You have three nerds who developed a messaging app (there were 4, they sacked the other one) and were in the right place at the right time for their app instead of the hundreds of alternative apps to become one of the most successful in the world. Three nerds heading a private capitalist venture currently at will editing heads of world governments

    But because Trump is currently against it, you have to pretend it's a good thing

    Yay for capitalism, yay for free market enterprise having that much unregulated power!
     
  19. egger

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    Trump did a grandstand photo-op at the White House with law enforcement officials with slimy backgrounds.


    Sheriffs who cheered Trump's attack on press have their own media run-ins
    A group of sheriffs gave the president a troubling ovation after he called journalists ‘very, very dishonest’. Here is a taste of local media scrutiny of 10 of them
    Jon Swaine
    Sat 8 Sep 2018 07.00 EDT
    Last modified on Mon 10 Sep 2018 09.26 EDT

    Sheriffs who cheered Trump's attack on press have their own media run-ins

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    "1. Sheriff Ana Franklin, Morgan county, Alabama
    Ana Franklin

    Franklin is under investigation by the FBI and state authorities after a local news blogger, Glenda Lockhart, disclosed last year that the sheriff used $150,000 in public money to invest in a now-bankrupt used car dealership that was part-owned by a convicted fraudster. The money was taken from a fund meant for feeding inmates in the county jail.


    2. Sheriff Thomas Hodgson, Bristol county, Massachusetts

    Hodgson recently claimed he was the victim of a “witch-hunt”, after the Massachusetts attorney general called for an investigation of suicides and mistreatment in his jails, in response to findings by the New England Center For Investigative Reporting.

    Other media, including the Boston Globe, have highlighted a series of controversies around Hodgson’s actions in office, such as his attempts to charge inmates $5 a day for being locked in his jail and the placing of prisoners with mental health problems in solitary confinement.

    An attorney for Hodgson’s daughter, Michelle, complained that she received unfair media attention in 2014, when she was arrested and charged with witness intimidation. Then 29, Michelle Hodgson was accused of interfering as police tried to deal with a late-night mass shooting, asking “Do you know that my father’s the sheriff?” and threatening to have an officer fired as she was detained. She pleaded not guilty and the charges were dropped.


    3. Sheriff Sharon Wehrly, Nye county, Nevada

    Sharon Wehrley. Photograph: Nye County Sheriff's Office

    In May this year it was reported by KTNV News that Wehrly left her Glock .45 service pistol in the bathroom of a casino. It was discovered by a cleaner. Wehrly, who could not immediately recall what day the incident had occurred, told a reporter it was not the first time she had mislaid her weapon. She later apologised for the mishap.

    The local station also uncovered a series of false statements made by Wehrly’s office about the fatal shooting of a family dog by one of Wehrly’s deputies, leading to an internal investigation.

    Wehrly also attracted coverage from the Las Vegas Review-Journal for publicly funded recruitment billboards that critics alleged were election campaign signs in disguise. Wehrly said the signs were within the rules and were approved by ethics regulators."


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  20. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Why the Chinese troop movement to the Indian border though?

    Pay too much attention to Trump, you miss what's really going down. Those two countries really hate each other
     
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