2019-nCoV Coronovirus (COVID-19]

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Vanilla Gorilla, Jan 29, 2020.

  1. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Come on man,

    nyc.gov/assets/doh

    doh, department of health

    Do I have to baby sit you all the time?

    Report is not from the media, it's direct from the government website, they are the ones saying 1/3 of those deaths weren't swabbed for covid
     
  2. Tyrsonswood

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    That doesn't mean they didn't die from covid-19... it only means they were not tested.
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    So... why put it on the media?
     
  4. Vanilla Gorilla

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    No, they won't

    Primary cause of death, Covid numbers will be lower

    That's why you get estimates like 12,000 to 60,000 for influenza, 12,000 for primary cause of death, another 48,000 pneumonia from influenza listed as co- morbidity
     
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    I think those are Guinea pigs... : P

    Either way. I suppose it makes sense for a petting zoo to operate this way. Don't know if I could carry it out though!
     
  6. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Doesn't mean they didn't die from herpes either or from watching too much CNN
     
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  7. Asmodean

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    Its certain they are already higher than the official reports. Maybe you are at odds with someone dying from covid19 while also having pneumonia or a heart disease gets counted as a covid19 victim. Doesn't change shit.
     
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    When the rate of death is much higher than it would normally be from influenza and pneumonia, and symptoms are consistent with covid 19, its a fairly safe assumption those deaths are the result of covid 19.
     
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    Yeah... This always happens :rolleyes:
     
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    Don't baffle VG with logic.... It never goes well.
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    And we are back to your belief system, you want to believe everyone that died in New York in March and April died of covid and nothing else to justify Europe's actions in full lockdowns that will eventually lead to that entire continent turning into a banana republic

    It's going to happen, whether you get your nose out of joint or not. CDC is going to go back at a later date, pour through all the data. Tabulate for primary cause of death, co-morbidity or undetermined....and adjust the totals

    They have to, so they can work out a whole bunch of stuff; the viruses real infection and mortality rate, accuracy of Chinese data; how many deaths in Italy were cause by having wrong ventilator protocols; transmission probabilities so we know what size groups to stay away from etc etc
     
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    Ive found no information on any apartment building with 20-30 dead.. Italy maybe, nyc no.
     
  13. Asmodean

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    Not 'everyone' in a long shot. But yes, its certain that its more than the official count. It's not my belief system.... I (and most others here) are not arguing this for the motive you project on me. It's in fact quite curious you think the official covid19 death count will be lower. Several people countered your assumption already. It's not just me ;)

    Please dude, you got nothing better?
     
  14. Vanilla Gorilla

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    If the death rate was much higher we'd be talking deaths in the 10s of millions by now

    If they are found dead in their apartment, they don't know what the symptoms were to be consistent with
     
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    Strange brew eh.
     
  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Ok, show me where you are getting that from, apart from just a feeling you have.

    Covid as primary cause of death, numbers will go down

    I'm sorry, but a fair number of those deaths in Italy were because it was early days and they were putting them on the ventilators at the wrong time

    A certain number of nursing home deaths in Spain were simply because they got abandoned
     
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    I don't want to join VG's chicken pox party! :-D He hasn't convinced me the 'world economy' is at all precious enough to uphold for any longer than we might imagine the 'status quo' was ever in our best interests. lol The pause button is pressed. Play with that!

    *Dejavu, reflecting on the fact he was always something of an anarchist, vaguely pictures our grandiose delusions of debt, and then, apologetically, almost democratically, sighs at the vast divergence between his own hopes and those of the world 'at large'...
     
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    48 in nursing home here got it, 3 died. up 1, from 2, the rest recovered. for how long tho? considering they old, another year or two..

    Locals died together days apart. They was 89 and 92yr old.

    51 out of 823 are on vents in Allegheny county (the entire county hospital system)
     
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    (Bloomberg News) -- Hydroxychloroquine, the 65-year-old malaria drug that President Donald Trump has touted and praised appeared not to help patients get rid of the pathogen
     
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