2019-nCoV Coronovirus (COVID-19]

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by Vanilla Gorilla, Jan 29, 2020.

  1. Driftrue

    Driftrue Banned

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    Of course. But you gave me that feeling every time you said "people are shit" type sentiment.

    Also I think you choose to ignore the part where VG says isolate the high risk vulnerable people. He's not just dismissing people as being unimportant. But if the world completely fucks up because we shut everuthing down, those vulnerable people will suffer anyway.
     
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    Hooray hooray for poor countries where people don't live to be seniors! They will host and spread this disease forever.

    Won't that be convenient for YOU when YOU turn 65!?
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    That's exactly the kind of sentiment I am totally bewildered by.

    The whole world is supposed to stop, and you know full well what kind of damage this is going to cause in India, Africa, Sth America as well as the young and poor in your own country, but screw all that, the whole world is supposed to stop, they all suffer.......just so we can for the most part, save a bunch of pretentious first world seniors

    And here is a question, fucking why????

    Coupled with this kind of shit:
    French doctor apologizes for comments on testing a COVID-19 vaccine in Africa that prompted outrage on social media


    Maybe, just maybe, it was all kind of inevitable and the first world deserves it
     
  4. Driftrue

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    My views won't alter just because they now mean me. I don't tend to just SAY things like "the human population needs to lower" without thinking and considering the fact that that might mean me dying, my parents (69 and 74).. Etc. If I wasn't prepared to be a loss, or to suffer loss, I wouldn't say those views the rest of the time, when there was no obvious threat.

    I'm not a "boomer basher". I love mankind as a whole. But unless the population lowers (or we radically change the way we live), we're all going to be at risk from the effects of climate change and over population anyway. If my parents died of corvid, I would be very sad, but I would also accept that they had died of natural causes, and understand that this is part of what life is. Dying in their later years, possibly from something they may have survived in younger years. It doesn't mean I don't care, am not compassionate. I mainly don't like the polarizing here where you're wildly one thing or the other.
     
  5. Driftrue

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    If we don't care about the older people in western society, we don't care about people. We're heartless misanthropes. That's the feeling I'm getting. And no one seems to pay attention to the fact that it's caring about other groups of people that are behind these views.
     
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    There's also a healthy dose of fear behind these views.

    I see both sides, I don't think this is remotely one sided actually

    But I think if you're an older person and you're retired and on a pension or whatever, and not much has changed about your life during this, its easy to miss this undercurrent of fear and anxiety among younger people who have had their livelihoods suddenly stripped from them
     
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    I have an acquaintance who is a small business owner and they said the website where you apply for relief grants is so overloaded it keeps crashing and they can't even get an application in.

    My sister's unemployment application was denied for some reason and she hasn't been able to get in touch with anyone in unemployment over the phone for 2 weeks

    The US doesn't have the infrastructure to deal with this
     
  9. tumbling.dice

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    So I get a call from my aunt yesterday afternoon. She says they are having an Easter get together, inviting a few people, so-and-so might be there with the new baby, cousin Diane (who is very overweight and has health problems) will be there, etc., etc. I'm thinking, don't you all know what's going around? They are about 70 years old and sure, this is a rural area, but we are now starting to get new cases daily.

    So I try to explain that I probably won't be there, blah blah blah, and she takes that I'm concerned they might make me sick. I'm like, no no I work around people all day, I could potentially get you sick. Then she says, I understand...we'll just come out there then. :rolleyes: I'm totally exasperated, I love them dearly and want them to be careful but I don't think they get it.

    They are retired and sit around all day watching FOX News, so no telling what advice they've been getting.
     
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  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Man, They really spank da butt
     
  13. relaxxx

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    This will be a world flipper. I am quite aware of that. First world democracies will suffer massive economic collapses. Poor countries and fascist communist countries that don't care about life will boom. Chinese people already firmly believe this was America's fault. They know how to win this, close the boarders and keep lying to your people. Need money? China's looking to buy, your land, your children's future. The only solution for us is unspeakable... CLOSE the boarders, make our own products, boycott inhumane countries instead of relying on them. That's the hard road. There's an easy road I believe VG wants to follow, swallow the death pill, take the losses in lives and continue this global market competition that we've slowly been losing for decades. Yup, China's been buying our properties and resources long before this virus smacked us in the face.
     
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    This video is one month old today.
     
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  16. Driftrue

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    Yep maybe a bit. As it has been pointed out, I live on an island that can't feed itself. I really don't want to find out what happens if things deteriorate to the point of genuine food shortages.

    I don't see why instead of maintaining weapons which could trigger the end of life on this planet, we don't maintain huge hospitals with more capacity than usually needed, especially for this scenario.

    I mean, on the other hand I love this lock down. Planet breathes. No work. Radical shake up of society perhaps. It's just illogical which is annoying. And I don't like supermarket shopping these days, it's too intense.
     
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    14 old folks died in a nursing home in Greeley Colorado. They all died at once and tested positive for Coronavirus (Trump Virus) post mortem. Lots of Republicans raise a stink over four Americans who died in Ban Ghazi, but have said nothing about these Americans. I wonder why?
     
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    New area of research..............

    Massachusetts could have more than 100,000 coronavirus cases — many times more than the entire state has identified at this point, according to an MIT-associated study of local sewage.

    Biobot Analytics, which is a lab associated with the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, published research this week that an analysis of sewage from a treatment facility in Massachusetts” suggested that many more people potentially have the highly contagious disease than tests have confirmed.

    “On March 25, the area represented by the sample had approximately 446 confirmed cases of Covid-19,” Biobot researchers wrote Wednesday in a post about their research. “Based on our sewage analysis, we estimate that up to 115,000 people are infected and shedding the SARS-CoV-2 virus.”
     

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