2019-nCoV Coronovirus (COVID-19]

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  1. Irminsul

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    I'm to get tested for the covid on Monday.
    But how does a nasal swab tell if you've already had it and have any buddies .
    Antibodies..
     
  3. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Well, 160,000 cases/ 11,000,000 is 1.45%
     
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    Excuse me VG to the Batman but I'm not a mathematician.
    What are you saying?
     
  5. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    VG is saying not enough boomers have died yet...
     
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    I'm just really not seeing that case it is bunch of 'boomers' dying from the so-called influenza Wuhan China.
    I really seen the statistics of a general flu type symptom with the common elderly.
    Satan however has try to avoid the restrictions of going outdoors.. my uncle can't use my car it doesn't mean that she can't get around. It just walked the family Dollar I can't lock the motherfuker up.. are you fucking serious the fucking human being. I can't prevent it from doing some things but I can't prevented from doing all.
    And of course it sit in the kitchen coughing like a goofball hasn't smoked cigarettes in my maybe 40 years. Jesus fucking Christ.
     
  7. Vanilla Gorilla

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    No got that wrong, 11 million in NYC, 20 million in the state, jeezus

    161,000 confirmed cases is 161k/ 20 million = 0.8% of people in the state have the bat virus
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I'm saying it's a friggin time bomb if it has lost its virulence now, but can lay dormant in the cells

    Dormant in the cells, it won't show up on nasal swabs
     
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    I'm dead Monday. .
     
  10. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Here Here, *claps

    "The language around COVID-19 has sometimes felt trite and misleading. You do not survive the illness through fortitude and strength of character, whatever the Prime Minister’s colleagues will tell us,” she began.

    “And the disease is not ‘a great leveller’, the consequences of which everyone, rich or poor, suffers the same. This is a myth which needs debunking.

    “Those serving on the front line right now, bus drivers, shelf stackers, nurses, care home workers, hospital staff and shopkeepers are disproportionately the lower paid members of our workforce. They are more likely to catch the disease, because they are more exposed."

    Those who live in tower blocks and small flats will find the lockdown tougher. Those in manual jobs will be unable to work from home. This is a health issue with huge ramifications for social welfare, and it’s a welfare issue with huge ramifications for public health,” Maitlis said.

    It was a simple statement – perhaps already obvious to some – but Maitlis so plainly pointing out that this pandemic affects some more than others was welcomed by viewers, who’ve praised it as “powerful” and “the strongest minute of current affairs TV since coronavirus started”.

    Host instantly debunks biggest coronavirus myth
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Dated Feb 27

    Covid-19 far more likely than Sars to bond to human cells due to HIV-like mutation, scientists say


    "HONG KONG — The new coronavirus has a HIV-like mutation that means its ability to bind with human cells could be up to 1,000 times as strong as the Sars virus, according to new research by scientists in China and Europe.

    The discovery could help to explain not only how the infection has spread but also where it came from and how best to fight it.

    Scientists showed that Sars (severe acute respiratory syndrome) entered the human body by binding with a receptor protein called ACE2 on a cell membrane. And some early studies suggested that the new coronavirus, which shares about 80 per cent of the genetic structure of Sars, might follow a similar path.

    But the ACE2 protein does not exist in large quantities in healthy people, and this partly helped to limit the scale of the Sars outbreak of 2002-03, in which infected about 8,000 people around the world.
    Read more at Covid-19 far more likely than Sars to bond to human cells due to HIV-like mutation, scientists say"

    Covid-19 far more likely than Sars to bond to human cells due to HIV-like mutation, scientists say
     
  12. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Yesterday:

    MUST READ! Research Reveals That COVID-19 Attacks Hemoglobin In Red Blood Cells, Rendering It Incapable Of Transporting Oxygen. Current Medical Protocols Could All Be Wrong! - Thailand Medical News

    COVID-19 Research: Findings from a new study released by Chinese researchers , Dr Wenzhong Liu from Sichuan University and Dr Hualan Li from Yibin University has revealed that the Sars-CoV-2 coronavirus attacks hemoglobin in the the red blood cells through a series of cellular actions, that ultimately renders the red blood cells incapable of transporting oxygen. COVID-19: Attacks the 1-Beta Chain of Hemoglobin and Captures the Porphyrin to Inhibit Human Heme Metabolism

    Though the virus is able to attack the ACE2 receptors in the lung tissues and cause damage and also while cytokine storms are creating more damage, it is most probability of the body’s inability get enough oxygen along with carbon dioxide build up that is creating the so called ARDS symptoms and stress and current protocols could be all wrong including the usage of ventilators in a non-proper manner way that could actually aggravate already ‘injured’ and inflamed lungs.

    Red blood cells are critical oxygen carriers to the various cells in the body. Inside the red blood cells is a molecule called hemoglobin that contains heme groups. Each of these heme groups is molecular “ring” (porphyrin) that holds an Iron ion or FE ion. It is the FE ions that helps to transport oxygen in the bloodstream depending on states of oxidation.

    Typically the red blood cells pick up oxygen from the lungs to transport to other parts of the bodies.

    Once inside a human host cell, the virus’s RNA also codes for a number of non-structural proteins that are created during the replication process. These proteins are not part of the virus itself but helps the virus to ‘hijack” other cellularpath ways or actions to facilate its survival in the host.
     
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    "In the COVID-NET catchment population, approxi-
    mately 49% of residents are male and 51% of residents are
    female, whereas 54% of COVID-19-associated hospitaliza-
    tions occurred in males and 46% occurred in females. These
    data suggest that males may be disproportionately affected
    by COVID-19 compared with females. Similarly, in the
    COVID-NET catchment population, approximately 59%
    of residents are white, 18% are black, and 14% are Hispanic;
    however, among 580 hospitalized COVID-19 patients with
    race/ethnicity data, approximately 45% were white, 33% were
    black, and 8% were Hispanic, suggesting that black popula-
    tions might be disproportionately affected by COVID-19.

    These findings, including the potential impact of both sex and
    race on COVID-19-associated hospitalization rates, need to
    be confirmed with additional data.

    Examination Survey, hypertension prevalence among U.S.
    adults is 29% overall, ranging from 7.5%–63% across age
    groups (7), and age-adjusted obesity prevalence is 42% (range
    across age groups = 40%–43%) (8). Among hospitalized
    COVID-19 patients, hypertension prevalence was 50% (range
    across age groups = 18%–73%), and obesity prevalence was
    48% (range across age groups = 41%–59%)
    . In addition,
    the prevalences of several underlying conditions identified
    through COVID-NET were similar to those for hospitalized
    influenza patients identified through FluSurv-NET during
    influenza seasons 2014–15 through 2018–19: 41%–51% of
    patients had cardiovascular disease (excluding hypertension),
    39%–45% had chronic metabolic disease, 33%–40% had
    obesity, and 29%–31% had chronic lung disease (6). Data
    on hypertension are not collected by FluSurv-NET. Among
    women aged 15–49 years hospitalized with COVID-19 and
    identified through COVID-NET, 9% were pregnant, which
    is similar to an estimated 9.9% of the general population
    of women aged 15–44 years who are pregnant at any given
    time based on 2010 data

    Hospitalization Rates and Characteristics of Patients Hospitalized ...
     
  16. Driftrue

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    But what IF the effects of the restrictions lead, ultimately, to more death than the virus would cause? You never address this. And you said we cared about how it would impact OUR wallets, but I am fine.. It's the idea of the whole economy collapsing that puts me off the intense restrictions.

    Yeah, they had two pretty young blonde women to show us yesterday morning, and they did. It made the lack of any other faces being shown even more apparent.

    You're always saying how bad humans are. I assumed your daily death figures were like.. A cheering on of the virus?
     
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    "I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

    "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.

    Gandalf probably didn't foresee us all being confined to our homes though :/
     
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    "The World Food Programme is set to halve aid to parts of Yemen's Houthi-controlled areas due to a funding crisis.

    The UN says some donors have stopped their aid over concerns that deliveries were being obstructed by Houthi forces.

    From mid-April, families will get aid every other month, instead of monthly.

    The war in Yemen has been described as the world's worst humanitarian crisis. More than 100,000 people are reported to have died."

    Food aid for Houthi-controlled Yemen to be halved
     
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    Lockdown is wrong for Africa
    8 Apr 2020

    The biggest public health risk in Africa is not Covid-19, but the consequences of regional and global measures designed to reduce its effect on public health. The cost-benefit analysis of these measures yields a different result in Africa than in Europe, North America and large parts of Asia.

    By far the biggest risk factor for serious, critical or fatal Covid-19 is age. Worldometer estimates the case fatality rate in the 10 to 30 age category at 0.2%. Under the age of 10, it’s 0.0%. A recent paper in The Lancet estimated a 0.32% fatality rate in its study population of people aged 60 under, and 6.4% death rate for people over the age of 60.

    In South Africa, the average male dies before the age of 60, and 3% of the population is over 65.The median age in Africa is 18. In Europe, it’s 42. Africa is the world’s youngest continent, by far.

    We must ask, then, whether African nations (including South Africa) have as much reason to fear Covid-19 as regions where so much of the population is older.

    One influential study, by Imperial College London, shows that the benefits of mitigation, considering only age, are considerably lower for the sub-Saharan African region than elsewhere. The authors are quick to point out that other factors may counteract this effect, but at this stage we are no longer modelling; we are speculating.

    The comorbidities we find with Covid-19 are diseases of age. Recent research shows that HIV is correlated with reduced risk of serious Covid-19, confounding easy assumptions. Speculation cuts both ways, and cannot guide policy. But the evidence clearly shows a strong risk gradient with age.

    Lockdown has immediate ramifications for individuals who live on a hand-to-mouth basis, and for their networks of dependents. If people cannot eat, they will not obey a lockdown; nor is there any reason, practical or moral, for them to do so.

    And there are less immediate consequences. Economic downturn means more people below the poverty line. After the 2008 financial crisis, five million more children were hungry than otherwise would have been.

    Lockdown is wrong for Africa - The Mail & Guardian
     
  20. Tyrsonswood

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    No... I am sick and tired of the boomer bashing... The cheering on others are doing, just hoping older people die to "save the economy".

    Just push all the old people out of the way because they are going to die in 2 years anyways. That kind of thinking has to stop, but I know it won't.
     
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