Is Marriage Just Crap ?

That's fine and you should only do what you want to do. Life is what you make of it and you should feel free to do what you want to do.

I don't think a person should make certain vows in the first place if they don't believe in what they're saying.

 

True. Long term partners become clearer mirrors.

 

/drop mic

 

I'll never get married anyways so I could care less. xD

 

What I'm saying is that even if they DO believe what they're saying, they cannot possibly know they'll still believe it in ten years time.

 

That really depends on the person though. Some people can become totally committed to someone while some won't.

 

You COULDN'T care less.

If you could care less, you're saying you care. I know this is just an Americanism but I could care less.

 

Want a cookie?

 

You're not grasping my point.
If someone is committed to someone else, whether they make a vow or not is irrelevant.

 

Yes!

 

Alrighty. I agree.

 

That's what I'm saying though, I believe lots of couples are actually lying to one another when they say "I do". I actually know people like that, especially one guy who I know whored his ass off before marriage said 'I do' to the one and only part knowing full aware he'd be whoring months later anyway.

 

I'm sure lots of people lie as well. I'm speaking for the people in their heart of hearts who love and are ready to commit for the rest of their lives.
I won't get married because I don't trust people too much and the law isn't good to men when it comes to divorce.
I go into every relationship as if it's my last though because when I love someone I become totally committed to want to make that relationship last.

 

I'm not sure if this is directed at what I said earlier but if it is, I think you may have misunderstood my meaning. I think if a couple has the will, commitment, loyalty and understanding then they can absolutely make it work as long as they choose. But that doesnt mean humans are biologically driven to be one partner monogamists by nature..like penguins

And by biologically driven I just mean...we're always going to be attracted to other people, multiple other people throughout the course of a relationship. That's our biology. The will to stay loyal to one partner only, on the other hand, is more of a choice we make

 

I very much admire your relationship

 

Do you think montanists are monogamists?

 

Quick search of average life expectancy in the 19th century shows that it was 40 years old. It's understandable how marriage might've seemed more sacred and perhaps necessary then, relative to now.

I don't know if we're naturally supposed to be monogamous or not but between doubling the average life expectancy and having many more temptations available, it seems more difficult to remain so.

 

No it wasn't directed at you, more at Stellar, and other people I've known in the past : )

Humans seem to have a wider spectrum of normal behaviour than most animals. I think some humans ARE driven to pair for life, as much as penguins. Others aren't.

There's a good chance I don't know what the hell I'm talking about with any of this : )

But Deidre summed up why one long term partner for as long as possible is my preference. We're all here to experience and learn different things. My best friend wouldn't have become my best friend without the relationship part, so it was never meant to be forever but still vital to what we are.

I'm a penguin at heart though : )
Or more albatross. I like the way they spend six months flying alone over the ocean then meet back up with their mate. Romantic!