The Donald Trump Score Card

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    Think Trump's acting like a dictator now? What if he's reelected after this?
    Analysis by Zachary B. Wolf, CNN
    Updated 1:12 AM ET, Sat January 25, 2020

    Think Trump's acting like a dictator now? What if he's reelected after this? - CNNPolitics

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    "During the interview, Pompeo said he had defended State Department employees. But Mary Louise Kelly asked specifically where he had defended Yovanovitch, who conservatives had pressured Trump to fire and who, it appears, had been under surveillance of some kind by associates one step removed from the President's lawyer.

    Pompeo had no answer. He later blew up at Kelly, hurling expletives at her in his office, according to NPR. And he asked her to point out Ukraine on an unmarked map, which she did."
     
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    McConnell Gets Trump Signoff for Vote Plan: Impeachment Update
    Laura Litvan and Billy House
    Bloomberg
    January 31, 2020, 8:07 PM EST

    McConnell Gets Trump Signoff for Vote Plan: Impeachment Update

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    "Marie Yovanovitch, the former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine who was caught up in Trump’s impeachment saga, plans to retire by the end of the day Friday, according to a person familiar with the matter.

    Yovanovitch was recalled from her post in May after a campaign by Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s personal lawyer, who suspected that she was working to undermine the president and block investigations into Joe Biden’s family. Her retirement was first reported by National Public Radio.

    In her testimony to the House impeachment inquiry, Yovanovitch lamented that “foreign corrupt interests” had managed to turn Giuliani and the president against her. She also expressed frustration with Secretary of State Michael Pompeo’s refusal to publicly stand up for her.

    After leaving Kyiv, Yovanovitch took up a fellowship at the Institute for the Study of Diplomacy at Georgetown University but had remained in the foreign service."
     
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    Also, domestic corrupt interests (Trump and Giuliani).
     
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    Trump Can’t Save Coal Country
    With eight bankruptcies in the last year—the latest this week—coal is in deep trouble again, and that could spell trouble for Trump in 2020.
    By Keith Johnson
    October 30, 2019, 2:33 PM

    Trump Can’t Save Coal Country

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    "The latest casualty came Tuesday, when Murray Energy, the nation’s largest privately owned coal miner, filed for bankruptcy. It was the eighth such coal bankruptcy in just the last year, underscoring the runaway decline of a sector that once powered nearly the whole country and at its peak employed about 1 million miners. Robert Murray, the eponymous owner of the now-bankrupt firm, has long been one of Trump’s staunchest backers; he repeatedly advocated for all sorts of government intervention to prop up his business, including pulling out of the Paris climate agreement, nixing former President Barack Obama’s Clean Power Plan, forcing utilities to buy coal, slashing safety regulations, and eviscerating the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

    To little avail: Murray and other coal companies have been trying to hold back forces beyond their control. Consumption has dropped by one-third in the last decade. Ten years ago, about 45 percent of U.S. electricity was generated with coal; by last year, coal’s share in the electricity mix was half that. Mining employment a decade ago was north of 80,000 and fell to about 50,000 by the time Trump took office; during his administration, only about 3,000 mining jobs have been added, though the recent spate of bankruptcies could soon wipe out even those gains."
     
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    The ability to slow the decline of the coal industry has been diminished by Trump's trade wars.


    Trump Can’t Save Coal Country

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    "Just as Trump’s own economic policies have dealt a severe blow to politically favored sectors he pledged to boost—like steel-makers, who are reeling from Trump’s tariffs, or farmers, devastated by Trump’s trade wars—coal miners are partially paying the price of Trumponomics. When demand for U.S. coal is soft at power plants at home, the go-to safety valve has always been—and certainly was last year—exports overseas. But Trump’s trade wars have chilled the prospects of global growth, with particular pain for manufacturing and steel. That has cast a pall on U.S. exports of coal used both in power plants and for steel-making. (Exports to China, one of the biggest export hopes for U.S. producers, have suffered especially as a result of the trade war.)"
     
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    Trump doesn't seem to be as vocal about coal as he was before.

    His option now is to try to find a coal mining business that added some jobs and make it sound like it is representative of the entire coal industry.
     
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    I think you meant that the republicans have changed.
    They didn't cover up for Nixon.
     
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  9. MeAgain

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    My brother is getting estimates from the Amish on having the roof of his house redone.
    He was planning on going with a metal roof instead of asphalt shingles as metal is cheaper.
    But the Amish duded informed him that metal used to be cheaper until Trump started his trade war, the price has doubled in two years and is still going up.

    So probably back to shingles.
     
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    So much winning...
     
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    To the cheers of his followers, Trump can rave at his rallies that the shingle business is doing better under his administration.

    The roofing cost is an example of why a tariff war overall usually doesn't work. It invokes similar problems in various other markets.

    Bush did the same as Trump, but at least he eventually realized that it was a failure and ended the tariffs early.


    Why steel tariffs failed when Bush was president
    Efforts to help one industry often anger dozens of others, as well as longtime trading partners.
    By DOUG PALMER
    03/07/2018 06:20 PM EST

    Why steel tariffs failed when Bush was president

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    "When George W. Bush tried to save the steel industry in 2002 by raising tariffs on selected steel products, many Republicans and business groups say the result was a disaster. More jobs were lost than saved. The states he sought to help suffered. And in the end, the tariffs were overturned.

    Now, President Donald Trump is considering an even broader action on all steel and aluminum imports. And despite studies showing Bush's tariffs did more harm than good, the New York businessman appears confident he'll save jobs, and that the move will be popular with those who put him in office."


    "Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) tried to use that history as a cautionary tale last month. In a televised White House meeting with Trump, he described how after Bush’s tariffs were put in place, auto-parts manufacturers left the U.S. so they could make their parts with cheaper steel and then ship them back to the U.S. — cutting jobs for American workers while also avoiding tariffs.

    "We found there were 10 times as many people in steel-using industries as there were in steel-producing industries,” Alexander said. “They lost more jobs than exist in the steel industry."

    Trump, though, was unmoved."
     
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    Trump uses steel tariffs politically to subsidize groups like the steel workers in swing states like PA at the expense of the rest of the country that pays the higher cost. Trump keeps returning to Pittsburgh for rallies.

    Contrary to Trump's lies, China isn't paying the U.S. tariffs. The U.S. consumers are paying for them with higher costs.

    It's worth it to Trump if he can garner PA and its electoral votes to just barely win the election. The same can be said for Wisconsin with its dairy farmers and Mi with its auto workers, both of whom were the subject of revisions made to NAFTA. The tariff-subsidy game can work in the short term for an election if not enough damage is done to the rest of the country that would cause electoral votes to be lost in other states.
     
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    The coal miners overall haven't benefitted from Trump's trade wars or NAFTA revisions. It has probably been damaged by the trade war because it made it more difficult to sell coal overseas due to strained international relations and the slowing of the economy in China and other coal consuming countries due to Trump's trade war.

    No amount of deregulation, blaming Obama and Hillary, chastising wind turbines, and waving signs that say 'Trump Digs Coal' is going to bring back the coal producing industry in the U.S. Trump's attempted gimmick of trying to declare coal a national security issue to subsidize it didn't work.

    Trump's own promotion of industries that harvest other fossil fuels such as natural gas that are cleaner and lower cost than coal places the coal industry at a disadvantage.

    With eight coal mining industry bankruptcies in one year, Trump is seeing today what Hillary objectively stated about the inevitable, overall, long term decline of the coal industry. Her words were taken out of context to villify her in the 2016 election.
     
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    If that's your thing, but you might want to post that on the Gay forum.
     
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    I know that'muricans have short memories, but I think some republican senators might lose their seats. Will it be enough for the dems to take control?
     
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    I always thought he liked sausages.
     
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    Joe Biden Could Be Impeached by GOP Over Ukraine if He Wins, Iowa Senator Says
    Jennifer Epstein
    BloombergFebruary 2, 2020, 3:02 PM EST

    Joe Biden Could Be Impeached by GOP Over Ukraine if He Wins, Iowa Senator Says

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    "(Bloomberg) -- Iowa Senator Joni Ernst warned Sunday that Republicans could immediately push to impeach Joe Biden over his work in Ukraine as vice president if he win the White House.

    “I think this door of impeachable whatever has been opened,” Ernst said in an interview with Bloomberg News. “Joe Biden should be very careful what he’s asking for because, you know, we can have a situation where if it should ever be President Biden, that immediately, people, right the day after he would be elected would be saying, ‘Well, we’re going to impeach him.’”

    The grounds for impeachment, the first-term Republican said, would be “for being assigned to take on Ukrainian corruption yet turning a blind eye to Burisma because his son was on the board making over a million dollars a year.”"
     
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    Senator Ernst thinks Trump learned his lesson.


    Ernst: Trump's learned his lesson on foreign interference
    "He needs to go through the proper channels," the Iowa Republican said.
    By SARAH CAMMARATA
    02/02/2020 11:03 AM EST

    Ernst: Trump's learned his lesson on foreign interference

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    "Sen. Joni Ernst said on Sunday she’s confident President Donald Trump will not solicit foreign interference in another U.S. election if he's acquitted as expected in the Senate impeachment trial.

    “I think that he knows now that, if he is trying to do certain things, whether it’s ferreting out corruption there, in Afghanistan, whatever it is, he needs to go through the proper channels,” the Iowa Republican said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

    To root out corruption in Ukraine, she added, the president should have instead gone to the Justice Department and other international organizations for help, but instead “chose to go a different route.”

    Later, Ernst said she intends to vote for Trump’s acquittal."
     
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    Well they did hound the Clintons with more than ten years of investigations and about $450, 000,000.00 of tax payer money.
     
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    Cue a 'Leave It To Beaver' comedy sketch with Trump as the Beaver.

    Trump's handlers think he's learned his lesson only to see him screw up again.


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