The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Maybe that 14 year old wants to speak with him and his lawyer?
     
  2. egger

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    Murkowski tried to justify her vote against allowing witnesses by stating "I have come to the conclusion that there will be no fair trial in the Senate." In reality, the trial is unfair because witnesses weren't allowed.

    Alexander said that he voted against allowing witnesses because it “would rip the country apart, pouring gasoline on the fire of cultural divisions that already exist.”

    Nixon stated that he resigned because his impeachment would put the country through too much turmoil.

    The politicians in DC have changed since Nixon. Instead of a guilty President resigning to the rule of law administered by the Congress, the members of Congress today willingly resign their own Constitutional checks and balances power to the President and relegate what should have been a fair and meaningful Senate trial to an election vote by the general public.
     
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  3. egger

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    January 28, 2020 - 75% Of Voters Say Allow Witnesses In Senate Impeachment Trial, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; 53% Say President Trump Not Telling Truth About Ukraine
    Quinnipiac University Polling

    QU Poll Release Detail

    excerpts:

    "On week two of the Senate impeachment trial of President Donald Trump, registered voters say 75 - 20 percent that witnesses should be allowed to testify in the impeachment trial, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN- uh-pea-ack) University national poll released today. Support for witness testimony includes 49 percent of Republicans, 95 percent of Democrats, and 75 percent of independents."


    "PRESIDENT TRUMP AND UKRAINE

    More than half of voters, 53 - 40 percent, say President Trump is not telling the truth about his actions involving Ukraine. There are sharp divides along party lines, with 89 percent of Republicans saying the president is telling the truth and 92 percent of Democrats saying he is not telling the truth. More independents, 56 percent, believe President Trump is not telling the truth, compared to the 33 percent who say he is telling the truth."

    A majority of voters, 57 percent, say they would like President Trump to provide more details about his actions involving Ukraine, while 38 percent say they are satisfied with the explanation he has provided.

    More than half of voters, 54 percent, believe President Trump abused his power regarding his actions involving Ukraine, while 42 percent say he did not.

    A similar 52 percent think that President Trump obstructed Congress regarding its investigation of his actions involving Ukraine, while 42 percent think he did not.

    Just over half of American voters, 52 percent, think the Trump administration's withholding of U.S. aid to Ukraine was not justified, while 34 percent say it was justified."
     
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  4. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Since the Republicans in the Senate failed to uphold their constitutional duty and responsibilities it will be up to the American people to get rid of that dirt-bag in office.
     
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  5. egger

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    New emails show how President Trump roiled NOAA during Hurricane Dorian
    Andrew Freedman, Jason Samenow
    February 1, 2020

    New emails show how President Trump roiled NOAA during Hurricane Dorian

    excerpt:

    "The documents, released in response to Freedom of Information Act requests from The Washington Post and other media outlets, show that the No. 2 official at the agency, Ret. Rear Adm. Tim Gallaudet, claims that neither he nor acting administrator Neil Jacobs approved a controversial unsigned statement that a NOAA spokesperson issued on Sept. 6. That statement criticized the National Weather Service forecast office in Birmingham for a tweet that contradicted Trump’s inaccurate assertion from Sept. 1, in which the president claimed that Alabama “will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated” from the Category 5 storm."


    "The emails also show the moments when the controversy that became known as “Sharpiegate” first came to NOAA’s attention. In response to an email inquiry from The Post on Sept. 4, shortly after Trump displayed the altered forecast map in the Oval Office, NOAA’s deputy chief of public affairs Scott Smullen wrote colleagues:

    “How do you want to handle this one? Looks like someone at the WH [White House] drew with a marker on the image of our official forecast.”

    In a separate email discussion, Cory Pieper, social media lead at the NWS, alerted the public affairs office that the forecast image was “doctored.” Susan Buchanan, the director of the office, replied: “Are you sure they were doctored?” Pieper responded: “Yes, that was doctored.”"


    "At the time of Trump’s tweet, the NWS’s forecast guidance showed only a very small risk (about 5 percent) of tropical-storm-force winds for a small portion of Alabama. However, Alabama was not in the storm forecast track or “cone of uncertainty” from the National Hurricane Center, which showed Hurricane Dorian skirting the East Coast far away from Alabama."
     
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  6. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    88.9 percent of people who answered Smerconish's question said they disagreed with Lamar Alexander's vote and explanation concerning Trump's Trial.
     
  7. egger

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    Poll: Support for Trump's removal remains steady
    The new poll released Saturday shows minimal change in public opinion about the trial.
    By CAITLIN OPRYSKO
    02/01/2020 08:01 AM EST

    Poll: Support for Trump's removal remains steady

    excerpt:

    "As the Senate impeachment trial goes into its third week, support for removing President Donald Trump from office remains steady, with half of voters registering approval for his conviction despite his all-but-certain acquittal, according to the latest POLITICO/Morning Consult poll.

    The new poll conducted Jan. 29-30 and released Saturday shows minimal change in public opinion about the trial. While 50 percent approval and 43 percent disapproval for a Senate conviction represent a slightly wider gap than the last POLITICO/Morning Consult survey, both numbers remain within the poll’s margin of error."
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    I'm going to call it now

    Didn't even get a chance to have the impeachment trial turn into a circus, how boring and anti climactic

    Now it will be Geriatric Joe vs Heart Valve Bernie for however many snoozy months

    He's getting two terms, suck a big fat one
     
  9. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It appears its not primarily entertainment. Shocking :D
    You already shared this message several times. Have fun though :p
     
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  10. onceburned

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    was it worth it? all the time and resources wasted. just so a few crazy people wanted to get Trump.
     
  11. Tyrsonswood

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    Little red hat people logic....
     
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  12. Okiefreak

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    I think it was worth it, to expose all the crazy and morally bankrupt people who still support him.
     
  13. egger

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    Government officials such as those at NWS and NOAA now fear losing their jobs when disseminating correct data in response to Trump making another one of his dumb mistakes and trying to cover it up with his narcissistic behavior


    Emails Show Panic, Anger At NOAA After Trump’s ‘Doctored’ Hurricane Forecast
    By Matt Shuham
    February 1, 2020 3:30 p.m.

    Emails Show Panic, Anger At NOAA After Trump's 'Doctored' Hurricane Forecast

    excerpts:

    "When President Donald Trump displayed a map of Hurricane Dorian’s projected forecast to news cameras in early September last year, the graphic included an odd bubble, seemingly drawn on to the end of the forecast cone — a piece of DIY meteorology which, inaccurately, showed Alabama at serious risk of Hurricane-force winds.

    Adding insult to injury, an unsigned public affairs statement from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, two days later, criticized a local forecaster who told the truth about the risk facing Alabama.

    But inside the NOAA, the White House hurricane doodle led to confusion, panic and anger at the politicization of science, new documents show."


    "“What concerns me most is that this Administration is eroding the public trust in NOAA for an apparent political recovery from an ill timed and imprecise comment from the President,” McLean added in his email, which was included in the records BuzzFeed published Friday."
     
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  14. egger

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    Dershowitz can claim that Trump's doctoring is acceptable because Trump was doing it in the public interest (trying to make himself look better by doctoring a government chart to cover up his earlier mistake to have a better chance of being reelected so that he can do more acts that are in the public interest).

    Murkowski can contend that an inquiry into Trump's doctoring of the chart is unfair and therefore that evidence shouldn't be allowed during an inquiry (which, to Murkowski's delight, makes it even more unfair).

    Alexander can claim that it's not the duty of the government to check Trump's behavior because his transgression wasn't as bad as it seems. Therefore, the issue should be left to the voters to decide.
     
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  15. egger

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    McConnell could launch an inquiry but with restrictions so stringent as to render it totally meaningless. He can later use it as a bargaining chip to coerce investigators who didn't want a totally meaningless inquiry to agree to not allowing evidence in the inquiry, rendering it essentially meaningless anyway.
     
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  16. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Lolz, the public's trust in the NOAA

    Here is one of the pages saying the sea levels will rise 70m if all the ice in the world melts.

    Sea Level Rise: 10m Increments Dataset | Science On a Sphere

    It's still there?

    That's the volume of all the ice in the world, plonk it on top of the current surface area of the world's oceans, it doesn't spread out somehow

    And that's how much sea levels will go up

    70m, and it's still on their websites

    Public trust in the NOAA


    Lolz
     
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    While Stained in History, Trump Will Emerge From Trial Triumphant and Unshackled
    His acquittal in the Senate assured, the emboldened president will take his victory and grievance to the campaign trail, no longer worried about congressional constraint.
    By Peter Baker
    Feb. 1, 2020
    Updated 4:03 p.m. ET

    While Stained in History, Trump Will Emerge From Trial Triumphant and Unshackled

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    "If Mr. Trump does win a second term, it would be the first time an impeached president had the opportunity to serve five years after his trial and Mr. Trump’s critics worry that he would feel unbound. He has already used his power in ways that presidents since Richard M. Nixon considered out of line, like firing an F.B.I. director who was investigating him and browbeating the Justice Department to investigate his political foes.

    While in theory nothing in the Constitution would prevent the House from impeaching him again, as a political matter that seems implausible given that he has demonstrated his complete command over congressional Republicans led by Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, leaving the president less to fear from a Democratic House. Some House managers warned that acquittal would lower the bar for presidential misconduct, meaning that Mr. Trump would feel even freer to use his power for his own benefit because he got away with it.

    “He is going to ratchet it up to another level now,” said Anthony Scaramucci, the onetime White House communications director who has broken with Mr. Trump. “He’s going to be Trump to the third power now. He’s not going to be exponential Trump because that’s not enough Trump. It’s going to be Trump to the third power.”

    But in that, Mr. Scaramucci said, are the seeds of Mr. Trump’s own downfall because he could go so far that he finally alienates enough of the public to lose. “The one person who absolutely can beat Trump is Trump,” he said."
     
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  18. stormountainman

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    Trump just gave a speech in Iowa and it sounded like he was pandering to the agriculture crowd. He told them, "Democrats hate cows." And "they want to kill cows." And "you could be next." He claimed to love cows. That's when I remembered that his first pardon was to Sholomo Rubashkin, a Russian who was operating a meat packing house in Iowa and had got caught using 400 illegal aliens. So, Trump who had run on keeping illegal aliens out of America's work force, looked the other way and signed the pardon. Rubashkin had also been convicted of financial matters, maybe tax and laundering or something of the sort? No wonder Trump picked him for the first pardon.
     
  19. egger

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    The kosher Kushner connection.


    The inside story of how a kosher meat kingpin won clemency under Trump
    By Vicky Ward
    Updated 3:26 PM ET, Fri August 9, 2019

    Sholom Rubashkin: the inside story of how a kosher meat kingpin won clemency under Trump - CNNPolitics

    excerpt:

    "The Rubashkin commutation is one of the earliest examples of Kushner's success in persuading the President to make a decision that appeared to some in the White House to be a blatant example of cronyism and was out of step with their political messaging. The Rubashkin commutation was felt by those three senior White House staff who spoke to CNN, to be glaringly hypocritical, because of what one person called "the immigration element."

    The announcement came just four months after the President's first pardon of former Sheriff Joe Arpaio, an anti-immigration firebrand who long supported Trump.

    One former White House senior adviser observed to CNN that, when viewed together, the Arpaio and Rubashkin cases were completely contradictory. Regardless, both were ultimately viewed as political triumphs by the President: two completely disparate camps of his base (immigration hardliners and orthodox Jews) expressed their gratitude and support. That showed him the transactional benefit of Presidential pardons and commutations, and how they might be used going forward."
     
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    Joe Arpaio pleads ignorance after giving interview to anti-Semitic weekly. It was his fifth.
    By Eli Rosenberg
    February 02, 2018

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ew-with-anti-semitic-weekly-it-was-his-fifth/

    excerpt:

    "On Thursday, Joe Arpaio, the contentious former sheriff who is running for a Senate seat in Arizona, took to Twitter to clarify news reports circulating about an interview he did with an anti-Semitic publication known for attempting to sow doubt about the Holocaust.

    “It was brought to my attention I gave interview to publication that supports antisemitism,” Arpaio, a Republican, wrote about his latest interview with the American Free Press, which occurred in January. “I was unaware and don’t support that view point.”

    But it was at least Arpaio’s fifth interview with the weekly, which traffics in stories like “Meet The Man Who Invented The Holocaust,” about Nobel Peace Prize-winning author and Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel.

    Arpaio has been questioned before about his willingness to give interviews to the publication. His office was contacted by the Phoenix New Times in 2014 after he gave an interview to the American Free Press with a Holocaust denier who wrote a book titled “Made in Israel: 9-11 and the Jewish Plot Against America.”"
     
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