Everything Collective-Unconscious Discussion Thread!

Lol i know people don't care. And this is like.. futile.. But they will destroy each other if they don't realize this. And kids are starting to realize this. like so many young people. and others just lock them up or put them in nut houses call them crazy and stuff up with drugs, so i thought to create this thread so that people understand this. I feel universe is trying to balance this mess of a planet by making people aware of it. And i couldn't find a thread like this here. And i have to like try and defend this thread if someone questions. A lot of people are convinced that they have some sort of mental illness because they feel things others don't. So i feel this thread should exist here, so that they know, they are not crazy. nobody is crazy if you ask me, its just different levels of perception. And when the whole world is this way, everything normal is crazy and everything crazy is normal, they just shut down and become convinced they are crazy and broken and most people kill themselves. Its a very very serious issue not many people are willing to address. So yeah.

 

Depression and Anxiety

Jim Carrey on Twitter

 

“All negativity is caused by an accumulation of psychological time and denial of the present. Unease, anxiety, tension, stress, worry – all forms of fear – are caused by too much future, and not enough presence. Guilt, regret, resentment, grievances, sadness, bitterness, and all forms of nonforgiveness are caused by too much past, and not enough presence.”

“If you are present, the pain cannot feed anymore on your thoughts, or on other people’s reactions. You can simply observe it, and be the witness, be the space for it. Then gradually, its energy will decrease.”

“The beginning of freedom is the realization that you are not “the thinker.” The moment you start watching the thinker, a higher level of consciousness becomes activated. You then begin to realize that there is a vast realm of intelligence beyond thought, that thought is only a tiny aspect of that intelligence. You also realize that all the things that truly matter – beauty, love, creativity, joy, inner peace – arise from beyond the mind. You begin to awaken.” - Eckhart Tolle

Be Here n Now

 

Maybe i'm being really childish thinking saying this to people will change anything and make it better . I know its futile but i just wanted to post this here. And i don't think i know everything, But it was unbelievable to me when i realized nobody sees these simple things? like about themselves? Its really simple but nobody is aware, atleast the people I've seen in my life around me. I was shocked to realize this and i tried and tried but they never listened to me i just got into trouble. I just can't believe this honestly. Why don't people see this?

I was watching this movie Xmen And the first line i heard was this quote

[first lines]
Jean Grey: [voice over] Who are we? Are we simply what others want us to be? Are we destined to a fate beyond our control? Or can we evolve, become something more?

 

There is never going to be someone like Albert Einstein ever again on this planet it seems because everybody follows others, others expectations, they live to meet. Whatever choices they make they think they are making it by themselves but they are choosing it from the set of options that society provides for them and look around you, You think people are evolving or devolving? Why don't anybody realize this? Its already too late. I think world is fukd for good. But yeah. I mean, Its unbelievable.

 

I mean, I've been on another forum before joining this. And i talked about some 'basic things' thats 'very normal' in the society in a thread and they kicked me out. The problem was, They all started fighting with me, And then i said somethings, And they couldn't fight with me anymore. Then when they didn't have anything to say, They just kicked me out because ' I was making people upset' .. I think i should just be alone and watch the world burn, What else can i do? If i talk about this in real life, Where i live, And i live in a very backwards society, They will literally murder me, Not kidding.

 

I'd have killed myself too, If i hadn't bumped into people like Alan Watts or Jim Carrey Or Doctor who( lol a fictional character i know), Because they made me realize i wasn't crazy. Everybody around me they were saying i was crazy and broken and i needed to be fixed and i believed them 100%. Because whatever i felt, When the whole world around you says that you are crazy, What else can you do, But believe it and when everybody just rejects you for what you are, There is only 2 options left, Either be alone or kill yourself?

 

But the problem was, I couldn't kill myself, How can i kill myself? How can anybody kill themselves? How can you kill light? I tried but, I couldn't, I was, light? And how can you kill light? Everything is light. And that realization just left me with no choice but to live. Because i cannot kill myself no matter what i do.

 

And at one point, I was in this state I was literally feeling whole world is a dream, i'm dreaming. And lol, I asked somebody, Are you real? Lol .. I mean because i was feeling everything as a dreamlike phenomenon.. I was seeing myself and things as light and it was dreamlike.. And i thought i was crazy. Then i learned about particle physics, They proved everything is energy and what you see is not real. its an illusion of limited perception. so then i realized Everybody in mental asylums these people that others call crazy and torture in mental asylums, They say ' nothing is real' Oh yeah, it hit me, They are in very high states of consciousness. They are just too evolved they shouldn't have said it . Even they come to believe they are crazy because of these crazy people. World has gotten so fuked up. Its unbelievable, And the doctors are crazy? This is hell? , What a joke?

 

I should probably stop talking, I know i know, i will.

 

And just so you know, I don't go to school. I was too busy 'being treated' . I've never learned these things, Or anything for that matter. I don't know anything they teach in schools or universities, nobody around me speaks English. i picked it up from the internet. even tho i talk very 'intellectually' my mind is not intellectual, i don't work on that level. Its something like, i'm throwing things i can find around me that 'kinda resonates with me' at people, i don't even know what i'm throwing at people, but somethings resonate with me, Some concepts, so i throw it at people literally. You might think i'm some intellectual person, But trust me i'm not. I don't know the abc of that. i just.. feel things... and .. its not logical.. Intellectual.. its something else.. Its not physical.. But i get drawn to anything that resembles that in this world. I've not studied psychology, I've not studied quantum physics, I've not studied anything, But for some reason, I understand it without studying it. I know i sound crazy but there is something like that, Its real. its 'awareness' you just become aware of... everything? Its so crazy, the things that happened with me, i cannot talk about it. ever, to anybody. At first it thought its just happening inside me. Then others were effected too, They would feel it too. so then i realized its not imagination. its all real. i was feeling things ( i donno if feeling is the right word, but thinking certainly isn't ) and it was happening, before i even thought about it, it was happening on a different level, it wasn't of thought/intellect . thought takes time to happen, its limited by cause and effect. Like you think you are choosing things doing this, you have never, ever made a single decision, thought in your entire life, it was always caused by something. Then some might think, There is no free will, Its not true either, There is free will and there is no free will at the same time, Or there is no such thing as free will. Its a concept, everything is you , You are the whole thing. Its like asking.. Are you, your left hand or your right hand. its stupid. its like asking, are you one side of the coin, or the other side..

I see people fighting in the name of stupid things, I call it stupid because, i mean like .. They are saying everything is X ( god,jesus,krishna,buddha,shiva, light/universe/black/white/devil/loganpaul/whatevertheheck) and only that is, And so do not judge and divide, because everything is that, Only that is, so whats the point? And then.. The funny part... All they do is, judge each other and divide and hurt and kill each other, while saying do not judge and divide, Because what is the point? I mean, They are basically saying the same thing, i see people killing each other, And i'm like, DUDE you are saying The SAME THING, Why are you killing each other? you might think i'm over reacting? I donno maybe, I'm .. I can't believe it.. i feel too many things.. I don't even think about it? You think i thought about all this? I never think about it? its not thought, this is not thought, i never think before i type, its all in me.. everything is in me.. why do i have to think about it? When its all in me? I'm Not an intellectual. I haven't even gone to school. Its not thought.. Its something else.. Its like.. Why do people hold onto these things so much, when they say, its 'within you' . If its within you, why do you need all these things .. they say they are good, but good men need no rules.. an innocent person wouldn't even think about hurting anybody, that thought wouldn't even cross their mind, so you gotta think , why these people need so many things, so many rules.. I am not good.. i'm not better than Hitler.. Thats how i honestly feel. Even tho it sounds really crazy.. Thats how i truly feel and i donno why i feel that way, but thats how i feel. because Hitler exists within my perception, only that way i can feel it.stars don't shine without dark sky, life cannot exist without death, you wouldn't know happiness without sadness.. everything exists within me. for an owl darkness is light, its just the matter of perception, if you sit in a dark room and stare at the darkness and meditate, The room will light up, You will be able to see everything crystal clear.. Death is life, and life is death, Sad is happy and happy is sad. there is no difference.. So i bumped into this article on the internet, it talked about concentration camps.. And they talked about the ways people were tortured. so cruel.. And they would keep on torturing them in very creative ways.. And at some point, something really strange happened.. instead of feeling pain screaming in agony, they started feel so good, so blissed out, like really they started asking more.. And more and more, like please torture me.. And people couldn't understand it why it happens.. Because, its not two things.. when they were being tortured.. at some point.. they went past that 'barrier' They felt the other side of the coin... Its the same energy.. Like hot and cold is not two, its one.. Dip your hand in cold water and then put it in the hot water, and vice versa.. its a matter of 'perception' , the things we feeel as opposites are not opposites, its just.. Our concepts shape the world for us, and we look at things through these filter that was programmed by society and when we do, what we see is not true.. its not real.. like. I cannot be around people, I cannot be around anybody because.. i'm not compatible with people.. anymore.. Like.. i cannot support them when they argue with each other and fight and all and talk crap about each other, i cannot pick sides.. anymore.. i am not capable of judging anybody anymore.. As in.. no matter how hard i try and i tried so hard.. And i just cannot.. Because.. my mind is that way .. i was hoping i would bump into someone that understands this.. instead of calling me crazy..

 

I'm like stuck in the worst possible place you can stuck in.. Oh well i think there are crappier place to be in.. But this place is nuts.. Like literally. the things that happens here. unbelievable. I'm stuck in this 'room' i can't go out.. I cannot even find a tree to hug.. Without getting into trouble.. My body is like, too young and too fucked up, so damaged, my brain and all, they have stuffed illegal drugs into me like.. I was a kid and i wasn't behaving like the other kids.. So these people are kinda twisted religious sort that beat their kids and all.. like they think they are the holiest of all. And they are so barbaric.. its 'normal' here. unfortunately. its crazier than some other parts of the world.. And at first they mixed so many things.. like.. idk? Their culty religious things into my food.. Pastes and all.. To 'make me right', i've been chocked almost by some religious guy, when i went into altered states,they did not understand it, They thought i was possessed by the devil and they did things to me to 'exorcise me' .. and .. wel a lot of things.. I can't talk about it here can i? i'm hesitant to talk about it. its like.. these people are for repression and suppression and oppression..like they don't even let boy and girl in the same room.. And these people are so frustrated because they deny the basic natural things, natural energies fundamental life energies they call it 'wrong' and 'devilish ' whatever i donno.. 'sin' and they don't even let boys and girls see each other.. Thats how these people are.. And of course they are very frustrated ,, they channel it via anger and hatred, they don't even like each other of the same community.. Its crazy.. They didn't even let me play with the kids next door when i was a kid.. i was always left alone.. They hate each other so much and they are all from the same community.. And yeah, i was abused sexually too.. Because.. Well of course people are so frustrated what do you expect? So I'm just writing my thoughts here,becuase i dont even have the freedom of thought, let alone freedom of speech because they stuff my brain with crap, drugs, that.. won't let me have my own kinda thoughts.. I wonder how i'm still alive and like sane because.. when their religious practices didn't 'work' on me, they went to this crappy doctor and got all these powerful pills so powerful, they are not even meant to be taken anywhere near a kid.. And they stuffed all that into me.. because i wasn't being 'normal'

 

And the worst part is, i don't even have the luxury to judge them.. So yeah.. And they still think they 'love ' me and they are waiting to 'go to heaven' for all the right things they did

 

But i feel pain and i feel frustrated and all.. seeing all this.. And i don't have an outlet to express it.

 

i kind of thought archtypes were like the so ultimate of a kind of thing as to be a symbol for that kind of thing, when in other words, nothing to do with sub persoalities, which i sort of think my have had something to do with not finding not finding such a connection on line. of course the meanings of words do change, but this is one i was not yet familiar with.

i'm not at all clear as to what is meant by sub-personalities for that matter. are these like alternative personae, voluntary or otherwise?

 

When you have dreams, Do you control the characters, Or the characters are sentient on their own? They exist within your mind right? There you go! your welcome!

 

Try meditating, You will hear all their voices, And yes, they are as sentient as you are. And yes everybody has them. There is no such thing as your mind or my mind, Its collective unconscious. You are only aware of the part you call the conscious mind, Which is less then 1% of your whole mind, That developed an individual 'ego-identity' that you think you are, Which is the center of the conscious mind. But you are the whole thing.

 

Do you think your thoughts? Or they think your thoughts, Try listening for 5 minutes.. You will know who is thinking your thoughts. People distract themselves with tons of crap, They never listen to their mind, They never feel it. And the articles you find on the internet, Majority of them is written by such people, What do you expect?

 

when i dream i occasionally meet other people who seem to in completely independent control of themselves just as in real life.
i see what you're saying, yes they could be creations of my subconscious mind, but i'm not aware of their representing anything, other then just random people.
occasionally, because most of my dreams don't involve interacting with anyone, but more often just wandering around in interesting places or even making things.

 

You can learn to 'Conscious dream' ( lucid dream, but misleading word) That way you realize you don't have to sleep and the body will sleep and rest but you can explore all your Archetypes, You have to go a little deeper than you usually go and most things you 'forget' when you are in waking state, Ego blocks awareness of it. Even the psychologists they study some books and they think they know mind, How many of them meditates and goes into altered states of consciousness? And they think they can 'fix' people? Oh please... They themselves are not aware of even 1% of their own mind, How can they know others minds?