The Donald Trump Score Card

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  1. egger

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    Rudy Giuliani has turned out to be a dangerous liability for Trump
    Jill Abramson
    Sun 5 Aug 2018 13.23 EDT
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    Rudy Giuliani has turned out to be a dangerous liability for Trump | Jill Abramson

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    "In television interviews last week, Giuliani first revealed and then tried to kill a story that reporters were working on at the New York Times, involving allegations by the president’s former fixer Michael Cohen, whom he described as “an instinctual liar”. The story, according to Giuliani, alleged there was a strategic “pre-meeting” between senior Trump aides, before the now infamous Trump Tower encounter in 2016 between members of the then-candidate’s team and the Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, who was offering damaging information about Hillary Clinton. In rapid-fire sentences, some of which were barely comprehensible, Giuliani maintained that this pre-meeting never happened. So why did he bring up the allegation, which had apparently been put to White House officials, at all, deepening the intrigue surrounding the Trump Tower meeting? The same goes for another piece of hot information Giuliani dropped in May – that Trump had reimbursed Cohen for money used to pay off the stripper, Stormy Daniels, to stop her going public over an alleged affair with Trump. That placed his client more squarely in the frame of another matter under investigation by Mueller.

    These blunders are surprising because Giuliani is no rookie. He is a former US prosecutor known for jailing Wall Street titans and New York politicos, some of whom were pals of Trump. But watching his incoherent bumbling as Trump’s new lawyer, no one would suspect his distinguished legal past. His off-the-cuff delivery made it look like he was answering questions before even thinking them through, nor the possible ramifications of his answers. It was distinctly un-lawyerly. I’ve talked to influential business people in New York who know both men and did business with them in the 1990s, when Giuliani was New York mayor and Trump was rising as the city’s most egotistical developer. They say they no longer recognise the two men as the sharp, savvy acts they were back then."
     
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    Giuliani digs himself into a deeper hole when he tries to do damage control, like Curly of the Three Stooges trying to fix the water leak.


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  4. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I watched the Lev Parnas interviews with Rachel Maddow. That Giuliani is in it up to his eye balls.
     
  5. stormountainman

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    Lev also connected William Barr and Devin Nunes in a solid way. The criminal conspiracy is obvious and could be prosecuted after Democrats take over in a year.
     
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  6. egger

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    One can only hope that Giuliani will continue to 'defend' himself and Trump.
     
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  7. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I also notice you have all been very quiet about what Putin just did

    Which I dont think will work in the long run, reeks of desperation

    So we may get to the point where Donald J is US President longer than Vladimir Vladimirovich is Russian President

    Leaving certain HF'rs without the opportunity for that nuttier conspiracy theory that Trump is in Putins pocket
     
  8. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    I think Putin is smarter and has more money than Trump. There is just no equivocation here at all.
     
  9. egger

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    Republicans Melt Down as Evidence of Trump’s Guilt Piles Up
    Martha McSally calls a respected reporter “a liberal hack.” Susan Collins blames the House for something Lev Parnas did. Sad and sickening to watch.
    Matt Lewis, Senior Columnist
    Published Jan. 17, 2020 4:39AM ET
    Updated Jan. 17, 2020 8:04PM ET

    Republicans Melt Down as Evidence of Trump’s Guilt Piles Up
     
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  10. egger

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    Trump may discredit an impeachment trial designed to acquit him
    Analysis: The president is raising the stakes of his impeachment at exactly the moment Republicans want him to quietly walk away with a win.
    By Jonathan Allen
    Jan. 17, 2020, 5:18 PM EST

    Trump may discredit an impeachment trial designed to acquit him

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    "For Republicans, the challenge is to acquit Trump while using the trappings of the Senate to present as much of a patina of high-minded fairness and objectivity as possible. And no venue in American politics is more aptly designed to preserve his power than a Senate that has perfected the art of smothering justice with solemnity.

    Likewise, no one in the modern Senate is better at working the rules and the Republican members of the Senate than Trump's ally, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., who has made no secret of his desire to deliver an acquittal of the president as swiftly, and with as little fanfare, as possible.

    McConnell's strategy is fairly simple: If the outcome is a foregone conclusion — and it will be without a massive shift in circumstances — there's no reason to call extra attention to that fact or give House Democratic prosecutors any extra opportunity to present politically damaging information to the Senate and the public."
     
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  11. egger

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    Trump is the type of person Giuliani used to prosecute in the 1980's.
     
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  12. egger

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    Giuliani is now the type of person Giuliani used to prosecute in the 1980's.
     
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  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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  14. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Its funny though, in order to keep up the Trump bashing, you have to make out what great guys Kim Jong Un, Ayotollah Khamenei and just recently self made dictator, everyones favourite calender model Vladimir....are
     
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    It's come up in one of the threads.... Or did we need to start a thread just about that. Or stop everything and only talk about Putin?
     
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  16. egger

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    That explains why Giuliani ends up prosecuting himself every time he tries to defend Trump, right down to accidentally dialing an NBC reporter and spilling the beans about himself on voicemail.

    It's a self-inflicted, Freudian slip type of behavior rooted in his days of being a prosecutor.
     
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  17. egger

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    Trump now has a motley crew on his impeachment defense team, including Pam Bondi.

    Bondi lied about the Florida Commission on Ethics supposedly saying it was alright for her to host shows on Fox News while she was Attorney General of Florida.

    She dropped plans for being involved in the case against Trump University after receiving $25,000 from the non-profit Donald J. Trump foundation.

    Trump was forced by a NY state court in 2019 to close the foundation and pay $2 million in damages.
     
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    The Art of the Self-Deal


    Trump pays $2 million in damages ordered by judge over misuse of charity funds, according to NY attorney general
    David A. Fahrenthold
    December 10, 2019

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...32645e-1b7e-11ea-b4c1-fd0d91b60d9e_story.html

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    "The payment was ordered last month by a New York state judge in an extraordinary rebuke to a sitting president. Trump had been sued in 2018 by the New York attorney general, who alleged that the president had illegally used funds from the Donald J. Trump Foundation to buy portraits of himself, pay off his businesses’ legal obligations and help his 2016 campaign.

    The money was split among eight charities, according to a statement from New York Attorney General Letitia James (D). The charities were the Army Emergency Relief, the Children’s Aid Society, Citymeals-on-Wheels, Give an Hour, Martha’s Table, the United Negro College Fund, the United Way of National Capital Area, and the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, according to the statement."


    "Then, in the 2000s, Trump began to use the charity in ways that benefited himself or his businesses, according to the attorney general’s lawsuit. He used the charity’s cash to buy paintings of himself and sports memorabilia and to pay $258,000 in legal settlements for his for-profit clubs.

    Trump also used the charity to boost political campaigns — first, Pamela Bondi’s Florida attorney general campaign, and then his own 2016 campaign. Trump gave away Trump Foundation checks onstage at rallies, despite strict rules barring nonprofit charities from participating in political campaigns."
     
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    smh
     
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    their one and only hit.
     
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