Police: Iowa woman said she ran over 14 year old girl because she was Mexican

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  1. Tyrsonswood

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    Yet she drove all around town and couldn't find at least one white kid to run over...
     
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  2. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    I am not excusing what she did, and think she deserves to pay for her crimes. But who knows what meth did to her way of thinking and her outbursts, or what she was thinking at the time, and the damage it has done to her brain.

    Personally I don’t really care what they do to her. I am not sad for her in the least.

    That Kind of freaks me out. I was at mall of American last January, ate at the rainforest cafe, which was where that boy was grabbed and tossed off.

    The boy went home in September but therapy continues and work to deal with his needs in school. He was severely hurt and continues with rehabilitation and therapy.
     
  3. Okiefreak

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    Are people getting meaner, nuttier and more violent, or is it that we just hear about it more, thanks to the wonders of mass communications? In The Angels of Our Better Nature, Harvard psychologist Steven Pinker presents gobs of evidence that we've actually become less nutty, mean and violent than in earlier centuries. But cases like the ones just discussed make me wonder. Going after small children shows a level of depravity that's chilling.
     
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  4. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    I don’t know, when I was a kid going outside playing without parental supervision, walking to school on my own in grade 1, there was not the fears of today. I think it has gotten worse personally. Violent Crime has gone up, not down. Maybe it is simply because people report more. I don’t know, but people generally don’t feel safe anymore. Through my teens I came home many times alone at 2am or later on public transit, never had any problems.

    Per 100 000

    1960 - 160.9 Violent crimes per 100k

    2016 - 386.3 violent crimes per 100k

    Rapes

    1960 - 9.6 rapes per 100k

    2016 - 29.6 rapes per 100k
     
  5. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    I don’t know, when I was a kid going outside playing without parental supervision, walking to school on my own, there was not the fears of today. I think it has gotten worse personally. Violent Crime has gone up, not down. Maybe it is simply because people report more. I don’t know, but people generally don’t feel safe anymore. Through my teens I came home many times alone at 2am or later on public transit, never had any problems.

    Per 100 000

    1960 - 160.9 Violent crimes per 100k

    2016 - 386.3 violent crimes per 100k

    Rapes

    1960 - 9.6 rapes per 100k

    2016 - 29.6 rapes per 100k
     
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    Bad Ass Crazy people may become a singularity . That'd appear to be a demon , an animated and tangled mess of sorrow . How do you make
    an angel ?
     
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  7. Irminsul

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    ^

    Aliens.
     
  8. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    I was looking at the stats for crime rate in the USA over time and noticed that from 1960 - 1969 the crime rate more than doubled. 363.5 violent crimes Per 100 000 from 160.9 of 1960. I wonder what changed.

    In 1965 Lyndon b. Johnson (Democrat) signed The Immigration and Naturalization Act changed all that. Sponsored by Representative Emanuel Celler of New York and Senator Philip Hart of Michigan and LBJ on liberty island in New York. The Act abolished the quota system in favor of a regime that established immigration preferences by categories. The 1965 law reserved 6% of visas for refugees, 10% for professionals, scientists, and artists, 10% for needed workers, and 74% for family members of naturalized U.S. citizens. So the law, which showed favouritism to people who were not necessarily professional workers and European countries were not favoured and the unskilled workers were welcomed. This policy favoring family reunification would result in significant demographic changes over the coming decades, as immigration from Europe declined and the U.S. welcomed an increasing flow of migrants from Asia and Latin America.
     
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  9. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    Now, from 1989 -1992 the crime rate skyrocketed.
    1989 - 666.8 violent crimes per 100k
    1990- 729.6
    1991 - 758.2
    1992 - 757.7

    I wondered what changed in the policies of the USA.

    So I looked it up policy changes in 1990.

    first introduced by Senator Ted Kennedy in 1989 and signed by President George Bush (republican) There was a call for change to the Immigration and Nationality ACT of 1965. This change increased the total number of immigration, allowing 700 000 (more than doubled) into the US per year, which was previously 270,000 per year. The diversity visa program was introduced, which was a lottery to admit people in from low admittance countries where the people there were considered under represented in the USA.

    The Attorney General also provide visas to immigrants who are temporarily unable to safely return to their home country because of ongoing armed conflict or environmental distasteful. This specifically benefitted citizens of El Salvador.

    This policy also removed the required language requirements and English classes were no longer required.

    Amended the medical exclusion provisions of the Immigration and National Act to eliminate text that let agents exclude suspected homosexuals, which was put In place under LBJ, and it further removed the psychopathic personality and mental defect language that had been used for decades to exclude homosexuals.

    For family-sponsored visas greatly increased as well. The policy set an annual minimum of 226,000, and a maximum set by a formula that generally yielded between 421,000 and 675,000

    Wow! a republican did that, but some will say republicans hate gay people as well as immigrants.
     
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  10. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    Now in comes Clinton (Democrat) and crime in the USA begins to drop 1994
    1994 - 717.4 violent crimes per 100k
    1995 - 684.5
    1996 - 636.6
    1997 - 611.0
    1998 - 567.6
    1999 - 523.0
    2000 - 506.5
    2001 - 504.5

    So I wondered what changed,

    Clinton (Democrat) increases border patrol funding And prosecution of illegals. In 1996 Clinton enacts a law of immigration enforcement as we know it today, where deportation is a constant and plausible threat to millions of immigrants.

    It was a bundle of provisions with a single goal: to increase penalties on immigrants who had violated US law in some way (whether they were unauthorized immigrants who'd violated immigration law or legal immigrants who'd committed other crimes) they were deported.

    So somehow, the country is convinced republicans hate immigrants from south of the border when they enacted laws that made it easier for them, and while democrats made it harder for them, the democrats toot themselves as the ones who are pro immigration as crime rates drop, from stiff laws and border patrol the democrats enacted.
     
  11. Meliai

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    You're going to need to provide some sources showing the crime rate went up directly because of immigrants. Simply citing policy changes to immigration during a specific timespan is not proof that the increased criminal activities were actually committed by immigrants.

    Post hoc fallacy
     
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    we landed on the moon and everything went all to hell.
     
  13. Okiefreak

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    You'll also need to deal with the facts that immigration was increasing while violent crime has fallen sharply over the past quarter century and property crime has also declined!
    5 facts about crime in the U.S.
    New FBI Data Shows Violent Crime Still Falling, Except Rapes

    Since the early 1990s, crime has declined significantly in the U.S. http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv11.pdf The causes of the decline are still debated among experts. http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv11.pdf None of them have linked it to immigration. Immigrants’ current share (13.7 percent—of the overall U.S. population) has been increasing since the record low marked in 1970. The overall immigrant population continues to grow, but at a slower rate than before the 2007-09 recession. Using your "logic" (if that is the proper term), one might conclude that increased immigration is responsible for the decline in the crime rate. Maybe we need more immigrants to water the local criminals down!

    A more plausible explanation is that Baby Boomers have outgrown crime, which is more difficult for folks using walkers.
    The crime wave hit when baby boomers were in their teens, 20s, and 30s — the ages when people are generally more likely to commit crimes. The Brennan Center for Justice also credits modernization of policing practices and growth in income.What Caused the Crime Decline?
     
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  14. hotwater

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    She had to be mentally ill

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  15. and on drugs.
     
  16. hotwater

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    No doubt she was on drugs, but it doesn’t dismiss her behavior.

    Prior to running down the 14-year-old girl, she deliberately hit a 12-year-old black kid with her car, and witnesses reported she deliberately accelerated
    before hitting the kid, which shows intent.
     
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  17. NubbinsUp

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    The source item from Associated Press doesn't characterize it as a racist attack. ABC News added that. The belief that someone is Mexican as a motivation for a crime doesn't make it racist. "Mexican" isn't a racial category either in the US where this happened, or in Mexico. It's a national origin, and an indicator of ethnicity in the US, not a race. The fact that it was a hate crime based on perceived national origin, an attempted murder, is the essence of the story.

    However, it's worth noting that ABC News labeled it as a "racist" attack to attract eyeballs, and they were successful. Here we are having read it without a critical eye and venting our collective outrage. It's likely not just sloppy journalism, but a case of not letting the actual story not get in the way of advertising revenue. Racism sells. News organizations have a habit of labeling most hate crimes as racist attacks, even when there is obviously no connection to race, as in this case.
     
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    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p16.pdf

    21 percent of those in federal prison today are non citizens who committed a criminal act! That 21 percent does not account for those in an ICE facility as ICE facilities fall under the department of homeland security.

    In 1988 there were 10 647 sentenced non citizens in federal prison.
    1989 - 13 293 sentenced non citizen federal prison
    1990 - 15 093 sentenced non citizen federal prison
    1991 - 17 961 sentenced non citizen federal prison
    1992 - 20 706 ^
    1993 - 22 626. ^

    https://www.congress.gov/104/crpt/srpt48/CRPT-104srpt48.pdf

    What would bring these numbers up other than change in immigration policies which bring in more people (aliens). During the earlly half of the 90s 25.4 percent of those in prison were illegally in the USA. Over 41 000 in state and fed prison. In the 1980 there were only 9,071 in state and fed prisons

    These numbers in federal prison decreased with stricter border patrol and deportation when Clinton came on the scene and more so with policies Obama put in place and is currently 21 percent approx.

    Some illegal immigrants in the United States have been, and are predominantly hard working people, there is also a growing criminal class among immigrants, especially among those here illegally.

    Now, nothing against Mexico but is a society where violence against women runs rampant. 66% of all women age 15 and older have experienced violence in their life. 49% have suffered from emotional violence. 29% have suffered from emotional violence or discrimination from their father. 34% from physical violence. 41 % of women have suffered from sexual violence. Of the women who were assaulted in some form, 79 % of them have not sought help or reported their attacks. Do you think this changes when they move to the USA and remain within their community?
     
  19. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    That picture of the victim. Lol. New source approaches, can we take your photo, we will pay you. Here put on something white, lay back and look angelic and tired, we will take a photo as you exhale a deep breath, no don’t smile.
     
  20. Okiefreak

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    No, technically it's not "racist", cuz Mexican is an ethnic category and race is a fiction. Technically, neither is Anti-Semitism. Tell that to the Holocaust victims. Racism is discrimination against members of a group of humans on the basis of their phenotype or perceived outward appearance. The woman assaulted the girl because she was perceived to be Mexican, and the boy because he was perceived to be African-American (or was that also technically not racist?).
     
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