Will we impeach him this time?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by newo, Sep 28, 2019.

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  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It seems that in above blame game it is acted like unfocusedanakin tried to 'play the race card', but its actually VG who's playing it.

    Yes, the american right is not all white and racist. That was an exaggerated generalisation. But no, when he stated the right is white people who feel their culture is under attack he's talking about an actual situation. Ideally he said a part of the right, but that doesn't change the fact who's actually playing the racecard here
    It's funny that people who hate it when the racecard is falsely played do it themselves as well :p
     
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  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    If is the keyword. I was merely going along with your bogus comparison.
    You picked Angola to make it seem you have a great point. But what applies on Angolan society might not apply in reality on American society. Details matter.
     
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  3. Tyrsonswood

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    He was not talking about Angola...



    Do you pay attention much?
     
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  4. Asmodean

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    I ment racist card btw. ;) just in case that wasn't clear
     
  5. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Details like Angolas white population is at very most 1%

    You and others are going to say its a bogus or ridiculous comparison because of course you have no answer when white is taken out of the equation. Which of course is why I picked Angola

    So how does Right = White in a country where 97.5% are black and of the remaining 2.5% there are more Chinese than Caucasians
     
  6. Asmodean

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    You are acting that his assertion about (a significant part of) the american right should apply to the political right in every other country in order to be correct or not racist. This is nonsense.
    We both know what he ment. You're distorting it on purpose because he worded it sloppy. If not and you really think you're making an excellent point here than you're the oblivious one. Not unfocusedanakin
     
  7. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Every little trick in the book


    No, it was just a friggin ridiculous thing to say.

    Right wing; wanting lower taxes and not wanting your countrys government to stick their ineffecient noses in everything.....is because of a bunch of white people that feel their culture is under attack

    Dafuq
     
  8. Asmodean

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    It is simply a fact that right wing americans feel or portray it as such that their cultural or even ethnic identity is under threat. Unfocusedanakin stating that is not racist. Stating it as unnuanced as he did makes it a generalisation. As it's not every rightwing white american. So he merely needed to add 'a lot' or something to word it correctly. But most people got what he ment.
     
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  9. Asmodean

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    Are you summarizing what Unfocusedanakin said? If so, you're doing a terrible job.
     
  10. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Its a simple fact is it?

    From unfocused, and now you, its a dumb thing to say
     
  11. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    You disagree that there are a significant amount of white right leaning Americans who feel or act like their culture is under threat?
     
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  12. Vanilla Gorilla

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    More avoidance

    Something tells me we are going to go 20 pages none of you able to answer what right wing has to do with white
     
  13. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    That's because you make it about that. The statement was about a specific kind of white american. The comment applied on them and rings true. You say it is a racist statement. So you're either at odds with how he ment it or his wording. I think we all know how he ment it.
    You are acting like he said something about right wing being wrongly associated to white people. If we look at a global scale that might be correct. That's probably why you made your Angola comparison. Thing is its pretty clear he was talking about the american situation. And he wasn't making a racist assertion, he was referring to how those white people feel. I dont know why you seem at odds with all this, which is why i asked this:

    You are as usual at least as evasive as me. Maybe answer my question above :) And what am i avoiding exactly? If you feel so, maybe restate the question
     
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  14. Impeach this jackass? The spineless Republicans in Congress stand in the way..hope they are all preparing their resumes, starting with Moscow Mitch..
     
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  16. Non indigenous people are more dominant than what the indigenous people are. But when the indigenous people get angry - look out they will pounce.
     
  17. It shouldn't be "played" at all. It's the very sort of thing that slows progress.
     
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  18. Spot on.
    People who think racism is cool and use it as a get out of jail card are stupid and need to be educated on what they are saying.
    Indigenous people might look different but they all have the same feelings and emotions as what we non indigenous people do.
    No need to go and pick on them because the naive think it's funny.
     
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  19. Okiefreak

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    I'm not sure what you're saying here. In the U.S. and Australia, the non-indigenous people are more dominant. In Europe and China, not so much. As an indigenous American, I get angry from time to time, but it's been awhile since we went on the warpath. We prefer ballots to bullets.

    It's not indigenous peoples white nationalists in the U.S. and Europe are concerned about. "great Replacement" ideology , rooted in fear of mainly non-white immigrants, has been gaining ground in both parts of the world, fueled by politicians like Trump who see an opportunity to turn paranoia to their advantage.
     
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  20. Asmodean

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    I think that's one thing we all agree about. Yet sometimes calling out racism (which remains useful) is mistaken for playing the race card. Or it is done by mistake.
     
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