aliens & their message

Discussion in 'Weird, Bizarre and Mysterious' started by cindywarble, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. Irminsul

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    None of it is new information. Remember ancient Aliens only exists to throw ideas around to people who aren't aware of the information and obviously it's very watered down, which makes the appearance of these physicists because for years y'all been like "georgio isn't a real scientist so the show must be fake" so now they've got the scientists on there, from many fields from geologists to physics personnel, so what's the excuse now? Why should we not take this seriously, but other shows they are on we should take seriously? I think Michio is on to something.
     
  2. guerillabedlam

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    I need to see the clip before I can take any of it seriously. Until then I maintain you're either misinformed or it's quote mined in such a way that anyone with critical reasoning abilities wouldn't give it a second thought.

    Burden of proof lies with the one making the claim... What's your excuse for not pulling up the segment?
     
  3. Irminsul

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    I don't know how to record from my television onto youtube.
     
  4. guerillabedlam

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    BEG FOR MERCY IRM... BEG FOR MERCY DERP DERP
     
  5. Irminsul

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    Though a very simple google search yields results in my favour I feel. If he at least wasn't into the idea, we wouldn't be reading these headlines.

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  6. guerillabedlam

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    Don't see Ancient Aliens on there...
     
  7. Irminsul

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    You're sweating bullets, I know. ;)
     
  8. Irminsul

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    And I remember what you look like so I'm just picturing your face all scrunched up now like DAMMIT! MICHIO WHYYYYYY
     
  9. guerillabedlam

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    LOL!! Not at all, the fact that you screenshot search engine results and it doesn't even land with Ancient Aliens results is quite comical.
     
  10. Irminsul

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    Ancient Aliens or not, he knows if there's advanced life out there it has to be ancient to the point where he lands on a show about it and takes a direct interest into the designated areas that such beings are said to have come from.

    So what do you actually not believe? Aliens, or that aliens had some sort of influence on humans?
     
  11. guerillabedlam

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    As it pertains to our discussion regarding Kaku, I don't believe he posited there are spacemen from Sirius B.



    In general, I don't believe Aliens have had influence on humans. I don't rule out their existence tho.
     
  12. Irminsul

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    It's alright GB im only stirring ya. I just saw him on the show and went to my wife Ha! GB will get a kick. Out of this. :p
     
  13. Michio Kaku believes in ancient aliens. Wow.
     
  14. Irminsul

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    The last several years of my life are all coming to fruition here. :D
     
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    aliens.
     
  16. DrRainbow

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    The difference between extra-terrestrials and aliens is that one of them is an insult to the scientific community. Earth is to us what a hive is to a bumblebee and we may have constantly to replace these hives with exoplanets due to astrological hazards. Life is simply too good at what it does for it to stop right here on this planet. Life did not ask. It just took. It has happened before and it will happen again. I believe it happens all of the time on other planets too! They are our neighbors.
     
  17. guerillabedlam

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    Life is ubiquitous on Earth and it's good reason to conjecture it happens on other planets in some form or another but in terms of the scope of this thread, humans are the only life on Earth that can contemplate leaving the constraints of their planet and actually do it.

    I believe this anomaly has been used to explain the Fermi Paradox.
     
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    What do you think was the defining moment in human history where we looked up at the sky and contemplated the beyond? Wolves are drawn to the full moon as well as many other animals exhibited to behave differently around astrological events, so it's not human awareness or knowledge only about what's going on up there and though it only seems natural to assume humans could only contemplate this, I don't see why others wouldn't. Like a bird for instance, I'd find a hard time believing that over the millions years existence of birds that not one bird ever looked at the moon and wondered if it could fly there. It might not know exactly what it was or how far away it was, but surely there's some animal out there that has pondered that thought of what is this disc in the sky up there.

    The only grasp modern historians can tell us is the early civilisations looked at the stars and were so impressed with them that they replicated their whole civilisation based only the fact that they liked them. That's not a good enough reason for me to be having the same cities carbon copied and parallel all over the world built with the same fascination over what they could see at night. I don't believe that at all and the fact that most of these ancient cities are structured to be viewed from the air makes even less sense, unless your only consideration was they thought the stars were gods looking down on them, which I don't believe either and attribute more intelligence to our early ancestors than historians give them credit for.

    We're talking about structures that can't be engineered today, so if they're doing that 10,000 years ago, they aren't silly enough to believe the stars are gods. The science behind the architecture IMO nullifies that thought. No, I think they knew much better than that.

    We're talking about civilisations that knew well beyond our solar system and believed in a cosmology that has only been revealed in the last 60 or 70 years or so. If a civilisation knew neptune was a liquid planet 6000+ before modern science ever knew that then something doesn't add up. Same with the Sirius B theories. How do they know that? We're taught to believe that they didn't have any telescopes and pretty much almost of everything they believed is not visable in the slightest to the human eye.

    So that leaves me with two clear explanations, maybe 3.

    1. Older civilisations were much more advanced than we ever take them credit for, which I don't believe because we'd have dug it up by now.

    2. That somehow inter dimensions and time travel exists in the future, and Ancient man was visited and taught the information

    3. That someone else came from very far beyond and brought with them that information and taught humans a lot.

    That's the only 3 explanations I can think of because it's not even a practical realistic achievement, in fact, it is impossible to know how much they did about our solar system and far beyond and modern science is only just starting to catch up and all its doing is confirming what people 6000 years ago already knew.

    We continue finding more and more ancient sites that were built based on astrology that far predate 6000 years now. 17,000 year old rocks are being dug up in Africa that scientists can't identify. The ancients milled metals that took 50,000 years for modern man to replicate. There are gold mines found that are hundreds of thousands of years old. It just doesn't add up for me, there's too much inconsistency for anybody to realistically have a grasp on to be able to pin point exactly who we were all those years ago, because the science doesn't add up.
     
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  19. guerillabedlam

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    The animals in your example are constrained by their immeadiate environment, which was part of my assertion, your examples don't refute that but they are interesting to consider because I think that...

    The ancient aliens hypothesis is asking me to believe that advanced interstellar aliens came and endowed one species out of millions on Earth to have the capacity to transcend their immeadiate environment.

    I find that more far fetched to believe than the idea of basketball arenas worth of people at any given time working for decades on the singular goal to erect a tidy geometric pyramid or that over the course of millions of years hominids evolved and developed upright posture and larger brains that allowed for more efficient and complex mental processes culminating in being able to travel to space.
     
  20. guerillabedlam

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    I consider these dubious claims
     

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