Thank You very much Donald Trump!!!

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  1. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Think thats another one where you just went straight in disagreeing because it was me. But kind of end up validating my point by saying you think racism is mainly about insecurity. Arguing for the sake of arguing
     
  2. Vanilla Gorilla

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    And then there is the question I often ask. No one ever seems to be able to give an answer too. Or no matter where it is in the world it is somehow Americas fault

    The question: Why CAN'T they fix their own fucking countries?
     
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  4. Tyrsonswood

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    Pot>Kettle=Black
     
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  5. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Sure, I've given lots of thought to that type of thing over the years.

    "Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do..."

    ~ John Lennon

    “All the present bureaucracies of political governments, great religious organizations, and all big businesses find that physical success for all humanity would be devastating to the perpetuation of their ongoing activities. This is because all of them are founded on the premise of ameliorating individual cases while generally exploiting on behalf of their respective political, religious, or business organizations the condition of no-where-nearly-enough-life-support-for-all and its resultant great human suffering and discontent.”
    ~ Richard Buckminster Fuller, Critical Path

    “We are not going to be able to operate our Spaceship Earth successfully nor for much longer
    unless we see it as a whole spaceship and our fate as common.
    It has to be everybody or nobody.”

    ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

    "Spiritual society, a society without borders,
    that's the hope of the world,
    that's the future."

    ~ Marquis De Custine

    “The world is getting too small for both an Us and a Them. Us and Them have become codependent, intertwined, fixed to one another. We have no separate fates, but are bound together in one. And our fear of one another is the only thing capable of our undoing.”
    ~ Sam Killermann
    You post a few lines you say came from a demonstration and then try to tie my thoughts to what you post.
    You try and claim those are my thoughts and my outlook.
    Who do you think you are to post a few words and then claim to understand what I think?

    Then you attack me by saying I have "an utter lack of intelligence" and claim I don't have serious thoughts.

    All that from my posting of two letters.
    I must have underestimated your intelligence.


     
  6. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So you agree with Trump, some white supremacists, KKK members, and neo Nazis are "very fine people."

    Blacks are responsible for most murders of white women? You can't find any data to back that up, but it passes the smell test? Yeah, it smells all right, it stinks to high heaven.
    Then you post a completly unrelated statistic, 52.2% of homicides are committed by African Americans. So freaking what? Did you ever think they might be murdering each other? No, probably white women.

    The link soulcompromise supplied lists the percentage of black on white murder for 2005 to be 8.8%, not 52.2 %, and it doesn't mention anything about the sex of the victim.

    You make a lot of assumptions.
     
  7. tumbling.dice

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    I suspect the same could be said for Manhattan, or Lexington, KY on Derby Day. No one suggests kicking those rich white people out just to make room for the rest of us.
     
  8. tumbling.dice

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    Why can't the US fix its own fucking problems? This is as fucked up a country as any in the world.
     
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  9. Okiefreak

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    I see. Very fine torch carrying racists. The whites on the torch-bearing side were there for the Unite the Right rally included Klansmen, neo-Confederates , neo-Nazis , white nationalists , Alt Right groups, and various right-wing militias . Which of these do you think were "very fine people"?
    You got that from a "reasonably reliable" source but you can't tell us what it is, eh. Well my source says Trump claimed the figure was 81% when FBI figures said it was 15%. Most of the victims of African-American homicides are other African-Americans.Trump's Pants on Fire tweet that blacks killed 81% of white homicide victims
     
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    I think that's another one where you can't seem to understand the English language, which I though was spoken in Australia. My whole point was that your rant about purity was off-base: pure racism is probably impossible to isolate and is certainly beside the point. Who, besides yourself, cares about whether the racism is pure or was motivated by something else?
     
  11. Flagme15

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    Why would anyone give you an answer? You should be able to figure it out.[QUOTE}
    The question: Why CAN'T they fix their own fucking countries?[/QUOTE]Good question. Why can't Australia fix their own fucking problems instead of relying on 'murica?
     
  12. Irminsul

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    What does Australia need to fix?
    The only thing Australia legitimately needs help with from America is the Defense force, as the Australian Defense force is not very big and won't take cannon fodder in the form of adolescent white trash kids. Considering Australia barely inflicts itself in any war, what are they actually needing America for?
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Not really

    Well except for the gun thing

    .....and every man in Florida seemingly
     
  14. Vanilla Gorilla

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    We have boring problems

    Like water management and err...
    and err...

    Yeah thats about it
     
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  15. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Learning how to use quote tags not being one of them
     
  16. srgreene

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    You cannot even be bothered to accurately repeat my comment that you then proceed to disparage. What I said was that I had read

    "over half of the murders of Caucasian women by strangers were done by black men"

    Most murder victims are acquainted with their killers- the vast majority, I think it is safe to say. And no, I do not recall the source, it's just something I read that stuck in my memory, so I can neither provide a reference nor vouch for it- but yes, it passes a basic "smell test" to me. I do not shy away from recognizing the realities of America.

    Nor did I claim that even some neo-Nazis, KKK were fine fine people- those people almost certainly would not have welcomed me to the USA. I merely corrected the false impression left about what Trump said. I will say that the category "white supremacist" is very ill-defined. Someone you might deem a white supremacist could, in my estimation, be a "fine person".

    There is much to criticize in Donald Trump. But those of you afflicted with what I see as Trump Derangement Syndrome are often no more interested in getting to the actual truth of a matter than he is. Look in a mirror, sir.
     
  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Lets just blame the CIA till the end of time so we never have to face the realization that maybe some cultures are worse than others
     
  18. Meliai

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    Yeah it's like that everywhere, this was my thought too. The population is growing.
    And the immigrants around here are way less obnoxious and annoying than the steady influx of rich northerners

    If I had a choice I would keep the Mexicans and Hondurans and send the New Yorkers back
     
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  19. MeAgain

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    I see, you believe "over half of the murders of Caucasian women by strangers were done by black men" yet you have no data to back that up, no source, it's just something that you think is true. I stand corrected. Strangers, well it doesn't get much stranger than that.
    Why does this pass the "smell test" for you? I can't even find a study that addresses this issue, yet alone possible reasons.

    You didn't claim "some neo-Nazis, KKK were fine fine people", but in your estimation someone I "might deem a white supremacist could, in my estimation, be a "fine person"".
    Why is that? Do you have a higher tolerance for those who profess white supremacy, or do I have a lower one?

    Myself, I don't believe anyone who participated in the Charlottesville white power demonstrations were "very fine people". Nor do I support anyone who supports them or their views, nor anyone that claims "some of them were very fine people" including Donald Trump.
    And I don't think Trump apologists are "very fine people" either.

    So tell us, in your own words please, were there some "very fine people" in those KKK, white supremacist, neo Nazi groups?
    Do you support Trump's statement that there were some "very fine people" in those white supremacist groups?

    Here's the quote:
    Some bad people in the white supremacist groups (not all of them by the way). The "very fine people" weren't the neo Nazis, etc. they just those that supported them and their agenda!
     
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  20. soulcompromise

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    This is a very useful conglomeration of data, but excludes homicide because the data from NCVS is based on interviews with victims.

    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf

    Here is data from bjs on homicides. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf#page=2 It's the table of contents.

    This link is to a different bjs.gov doc that discusses specifically the race/demographics of the homicide victim. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/hus11.pdf#page=4
     
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