The Donald Trump Score Card

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by MeAgain, Nov 15, 2016.

  1. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Perhaps if they handed out Neo-Nazi coloring books of Jews being shoved in ovens they'd feel like they at least know the score. If mental health were anymore of a disaster in the US, the UN would have to intervene.
     
  2. Flagme15

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    how in the hell did you make that analogy?
     
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  3. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Just call it instinct, and twenty years of my vote being made meaningless, the constitution shredded to pieces, and Neo-Nazi Ken and Barbie in the white house.
     
  4. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    I cut myself a slice of Flagme crazy cake
     
  5. Okiefreak

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    His actions have helped to boost the prestige of Kim jong-un with few tangible results. "Balls" wouldn't be my word for his lickspittle posture toward one of the world's most repressive dictators. And that's only one reason the so-called "free world" bloc is in disarray. (I didn't say it isn't free; it's in danger of ceasing to be an entity and preserving a modicum of unity , owing to Trump's dissing of our NATO and G-7 allies, and his subservience to Putin.
     
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  6. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    When a president decides to meet with another head of state. In most cases it requires months of negotiations by the state department, and each of the principles establish protocols and the details are worked out on exactly where and when they should meet.

    For the president to suddenly cancel a meeting like this not only shows indecision on his part but blows up months of negotiations.
     
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  7. Vanilla Gorilla

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    So you are saying its indecision on his part, not that they murdered an american soldier just beforehand
     
  8. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    According to Defense Department figures, 17 U.S. Servicemen have been killed in Afghanistan this year and 100 wounded.
    Some severely wounded including arm and leg amputations.

    All of that was going on during negotiations.
     
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  9. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    The US casualty rates in Iraq were lower than the auto fatalities they would have had if they had never gone. The whole problem is, there is nothing to discourage them from walking all over just about any country in the world with impunity, and they are rolling out the drones now to make it even cheaper and safer. Your tax dollars for the last 70 years paid for all that technology. Did anyone ever seriously believe for one second they wouldn't use it whenever so inspired?

    Afghanistan is now a province of the empire, with the third largest rare earths and precious metal deposits in the world. The US in Afghanistan also provides pressure on any opposition in Pakistan to submit to the empire as well. North Korea is also a goldmine, but its too difficult to extract anytime soon and China would definitely be pissed. The only known deposits of rare earths in the solar system, are here on earth, and their limited quantities have prompted scientists to speculate that 14 billion is the largest our population can ever become, if we accept being slightly malnourished. Controlling a deposit like that would mean in the future the US would have the literal power to control the population of any number of countries.
     
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  10. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    A Trump supporting judge in Up State New York posted a picture of a noose and the words which said something like To make America Great Again we need to punish evil people. Apparently, he has already resigned, because the noose is very offensive to several racial/ethnic groups. His Trump supporting racist behavior didn't go over too well.
     
  11. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    VG must be pretending that Americans have never killed Muslims?
     
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  12. Okiefreak

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    Dude, no one could look that up, since the situation you're describing exists in an alternate reality. The Libertarian Party is, as you say, a separate third party, so how could the Republican Party be "led' by it. I doubt that many,if any, of its members are religious fundamentalists and card carrying members of the KKK. Since Libertarians oppose regulation of morals, religious fundamentalists tend not to like them. Nor has the Klan been attracted to that position. By all accounts, the KKK is not a major presence in the U.S. today, although over 40 units are active in 22 states, and other virulent neo-Confederate and neo-Nazi groups have come to the fore in the white nationalist movement.
     
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  13. egger

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    After Bolton fireworks, Trump picks low-key Robert O'Brien for top job
    Steve Holland, Jonathan Landay, and Matt Spetalnick
    September 18, 2019 / 9:45 AM

    After Bolton fireworks, Trump picks low-key Robert O'Brien for top job - Reuters

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    "O’Brien is an attorney from Los Angeles who served as a foreign policy adviser to 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and 2016 candidate Scott Walker. He has handled a number of high-profile legal cases and previously served in several State Department positions, including as an alternative representative to the U.N. General Assembly in 2005.

    O’Brien has been a fan of the recently departed Bolton after the two worked together when Bolton was U.S. ambassador to the United Nations in 2005 during George W. Bush’s presidency."
     
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  14. Vanilla Gorilla

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    A ceasefire was part of the agreement for the meeting.

    You lot would have bitched and moaned either way, would have bitched if he had met with the Taliban

    You can create your own little world here on hip forums, but I doubt, especially on this issue, that most of those swing voters and centre left voters would agree

    Funnily enough, the Taliban leader was like, oh it was one little bomb, doesnt have control of his own guys anyway
     
  15. Flagme15

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    Only when it benefits them.
    trump thinks that anybody who is not like him(rich, and white) should be locked up.
     
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  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Copyright laws came from England, 1709.

    Patent laws started in ancient Greece, 500 BCE. A Greek colony in Italy actually.
     
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  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    See, you are just sooky because he has a crapload of money
     
  18. egger

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    Examples of Trump's twisted portrayal of facts.



    AP FACT CHECK: Trump’s bluster on hurricanes, guns, economy
    By HOPE YEN, SETH BORENSTEIN and DARLENE SUPERVILLE
    September 2, 2019

    AP FACT CHECK: Trump's bluster on hurricanes, guns, economy

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    "IRAN

    TRUMP on Iran: “We gave them $150 billion and $1.8 billion and we got nothing. ... Look at what they did to John Kerry and to President Obama. Look what happened, where they’re bringing planeloads of cash, planeloads, big planes, 757s, Boeing 757s coming in loaded up with cash. What kind of a deal is that?” — news conference with Macron.

    THE FACTS: It’s the kind of deal that did not actually take place.

    When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. There was no $150 billion gift from the U.S. treasury or other countries. Iran was allowed to get its money back.

    The $1.8 billion refers to a separate matter, also misstated by Trump going back to before the 2016 election.

    A payout of roughly that amount did come from the U.S. treasury. It was to pay an old IOU.

    In the 1970s, Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured. After the nuclear deal, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the matter, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest.

    The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later.

    In Trump’s telling, one cargo plane with $400 million that was owed to Iran has become “big planes, 757s, Boeing 757s,” loaded with a $1.8 billion giveaway. Kerry was then secretary of state."
     
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  20. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    In case you had not noticed, we have a two party political system, making third party candidates impossible.
     
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