Gun ownership itself is a slight mental illness

Discussion in 'Politics' started by unfocusedanakin, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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  2. stormountainman

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    That's exactly what I think: "an armed minority of nutcases" is what we talkin' bout Brother.
     
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  3. stormountainman

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    I say we repeal the Second Amendment in January 2021. Early voting start in 12 months. After we confiscate their guns we get to put them violent gun slingers in concentration camps where they can shovel organic manure for peace loving people.
     
  4. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Freedom? You mean anarchy.
    We have a representative democracy, a republic, becasue the Founders knew that the general public, minorities, and even majorities couldn't be trusted to maintain a safe state with the most possible freedoms.

    Yet you and others believe a representative democracy is not to be trusted. You don't believe in the Constitution, but feel you have the right to force your will on the nation as a whole by violent overthrow of an elected government based upon your definition of what is right and just.

    Maybe you should look at Article 3 Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution:
    Using firearms to resist enacted laws could certainly be construed as levying war against the United States.
    Or check into state treason laws, twenty nine have them.



     
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  5. MeAgain

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    No need to repeal the 2nd, it's clear enough as to regulation of guns.
    I agree those who use guns for violence should be locked up, but not law abiding gun owners.
     
  6. stormountainman

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    Well, often we see the law abiding gun owners use their guns to intimidate other Americans. Often we hear them say they will not give up their guns until the cops pry their cold dead fingers off the guns. They make it no secret that they intend to use the guns against government officials and other citizens. In the past they used their guns to keep Black people in slavery. I say this is a good time to put the Second Amendment in the trash bin of history and to put all them gunslingers who don't want Jews to replace them … right in the same place, or in some nice hot concentration camp like Fort Huachuca where the guards can be big fat Mexicans with horrible attitudes towards Republicans.
     
  7. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    That mind reading skill of yours, is that something you're born with or something you have to buy?

    FYI Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner.

    I'm not sure I qualify as anarchist or not, but
    " You Have To Hear About This Anarchist Town in Mexico Who Kicked Out The Government! – Jeff Berwick interviews Roy Duarte."
     
  8. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Racism AND ignorance at the same time!

    Nuestros amigos mexicanos nos quieren, y nosotros a ellos. Son mucho más inteligentes de lo que tú te imaginas. Ponte a saber algo antes de hablar porquerías.
     
  9. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Gun slingers have a serious mental deficiency. They neurotically feel a need to have and fondle a gun, because it makes them feel safe and secure when other people are around. Often you hear the gunslingers say they need big bore calibers to defend themselves from a charging Grizzly. Well, if they are scared of Grizzlies, why don't they stay at home in the apartment in Columbus, Ohio; where there are no Grizzlies? These mentally defective and insecure gunslingers say they will use their weapons against America's government officials; however, I doubt it would last long. Most of them would soil their trousers when America's law enforcement comes to meet them.
     
  10. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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  11. stormountainman

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    The famous 30-06 bullet is often used for deer and elk hunting. It is considered a big game round. It is also about 25 times bigger than a little 22 caliber plinking round. A 22 is powerful enough to kill a man. The 30-06 is powerful enough to kill several men, at the same time. The 50 BMG round is a military armor piercing round capable of doing serious damage to military vehicles. It can kill half a herd of deer or elk and several hunters right along, instantly. It has been outlawed in some states and wee need to press congress to enact new laws to prevent the white nationalists from obtaining such weaponry. The white nationalists have made it clear that they wish to turn their guns on other Americans. I think it would be wise to ban the sale of ammunition in America across the board. The white nationalists should not be issued hunting or fishing permits at all. If the want fish, let's make them eat Van De Kamp fish sticks or patties.
     
  12. mmmmmm fish sticks!
     
  13. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

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    Bread with a taste of fish. Sorta.
     
  14. I once saw a kid throw up a whole fish stick. I didn't understand, because it wasn't chewed up. Maybe I was just seeing things.
     
  15. stormountainman

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    Guns were used by white supremacists to keep Black people in slavery. When the Black people attempted to escape slavery, the business end of the white man's gun was pointed at them. During the Jim Crow era, the guns of the whites were used to keep the Black people from using public restrooms, drinking from water fountains, and eating in restaurants. I saw this with my own eyes. Nearly sixty years ago I saw signs which indicated where Black people could drink water and where they were not allowed. I saw which restrooms were reserved for white people. In 1964 we got the Civil Rights Act which brought a sense of equality to America. Today these white nationalists are using guns again to intimidate colored people. The intimidation hit square on the right to vote. Intimidation is often intended to keep colored people from the polls. We need to write to our members of congress and demand they do something about these white supremacists and their guns. There have been over 350 mass shooting since Trump took office. The white nationalists are feeling their oats and their trigger fingers. I say we repeal the Second Amendment and round them up.
     
  16. MeAgain

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    I don't know what you're talking about.

    Do you endorse using guns against government agents or not?
    Do you endorse overthrowing the government by violent means or not?
     
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  17. Holly1272

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    Well I hate to break it to you, but Thomas Jefferson himself had said, "Laws that forbid the carrying of firearms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

    The right to bear arms firstly has always meant your individual right. How you think "there was never a time" is way beyond me. If the writers of the amendment intended it to only be a right of the state to maintain militia, they would have used the word "state" and not "people" when saying "the right of the people to bear arms". The founders had no problems using the word "state" in other parts of the constitution to specify state, so why on Earth would this be one amendment be the only exception? In order to even have a well regulated militia, you have to recognize the people's right to gun ownership.

    George Mason, referred to as the father of the Bill of Rights also said, "What is a militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." So when I said earlier that the founding fathers were very clear in owning firearms, I meant it. To misinterpret direct quotes and laws where the founding fathers articulated their intentions for the right to bear arms screams that you have some other twisted agenda. Even commentators at the time talked about the right and its goals pretty plainly. Representative Fisher Ames of Massachusetts said, "The rights of conscience, of bearing arms, of changing the government, are declared to be inherent in the people," when talking about the second amendment. Hamilton even wrote in Federalist #29 that the abilities of a person in this way should be to a good enough degree to entitle them to be in a well regulated militia, and should even "go through military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary."

    US History absolutely screams the right to bear arms on so many levels, and screams even more about never losing that right.
     
  18. Balbus

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    Holly

    LOL so you’re really going to try for the faux righteous indignation trick to get out of addressing valid criticisms – how average of you.

    I’ll ask again - when would you start killing police officers?

    I mean that is what you are arguing for so why so coy about answering and please don’t repeat the guff about having the guns but promising never to use them.
     
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  19. Balbus

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    Panic

    This is what ZenKarma brought up in another thread – the use of false argument to try and stop legitimate debate.

    Claim the other side is crooked when it is actually you that is been deceitful.

    Sorry Panic but you are one of the worsted people for been obstructive and refusing to reply to criticisms while flinging around accusations about others.

    Sorry its getting so old.
     
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  20. Balbus

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    But the thing is that this is never believed by the hardened gun lobbyists

    However much it is said by those that just wish to properly regulate guns so that they are less likely to fall into the hands of the criminal and irresponsible the more it seems to be push back on by those gun lobbyists that seem to want ease of access to gun and don’t seem to care who’s hands they fall into.

    All they seem to come back to is that it’s the thin end of a wedge and that they just fear we are lying and only want to ban all guns (often it seems because they believe some paranoid conspiracy about left wingers wanting to take away all ‘their’ right and make ‘them’ slaves)

    It makes rational argument difficult.
     
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