Gun ownership itself is a slight mental illness

Because Ozzy is a fucking genius.

 

I have a 12 gauge double barrel for bird hunting, a 20 gauge bolt action for squirrels (sorry Orison) and a 22 rifle for target practice. I'm not paranoid or crazy. Just an average Kentucky dude. I'm not particularly worried about crime, but should my house be broken into at night the 12 gauge should come in handy.

 

i retired armed security because it costs to much .. And why should i give a shit that isnt mine and insured.

license to carry dont make u a super hero. its rather the opposite. I dont want to be involved in your mass shooting crime scene.

having been around enough shootings. duck it and fuck it. not my business.

sold a bunch of firearms the last month.. worthless shit not doing anything but taking up space and dust..

I cant wait til one these clowns hijack a gasoline tanker truck and crash it into a tunnel or grade sch00l so we can ban trucks and gasoline.., give it to me....

 

OK before we move on I’d just like to say I find the bitching against me really funny – I mean if you really wanted to ‘put me down’ or ‘put me in my place’ wouldn’t the best way to do that to refute my arguments rather than ineffectual hissy fit moaning

It’s like some school kids that keep failing tests and so bitch about the books the school, the teachers and the kids that get good marks - anything other than themselves for been too lazy to put in the research or too dizzy to put in the thought.

I mean here we have A acting like a valley girl cheerleader holding up her hand examining her nails and saying ‘I'm like soooo not about defending slogans’

And Mal just hides in the toilet whenever a test comes up and the others sniggering like a bunch of hyenas, giving out ‘likes’ when they admit they haven’t even read what has been said and don’t have a clue about the subject anyway.

But what about hitting me where it hurts, my criticisms of your ideas – why are you unable to put up any rational counter arguments?

You bitch because you have nothing.

 

A

What statistics?

Again this has already been covered – as I say isn’t repeating the same argument over and over and expecting the result to be different the definition of something?

Does easy access to guns make people feel safer or more fearful, does ease of access to guns reduce crime?

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OK here is something I posted a few years back

the general crime figures for the US are roughly the same as many other nations the only really big anomaly is gun related deaths.


Even taking out gun related homicides from the general homicide rate gives a figure for the US that is roughly the same as these European nations (1.2).

Now it is very difficult comparing crime figures form differing countries due to both legal differences and statistical recording methods. For example, the US do not appear to include minor assaults, intimidation,and threats within their definition of violent crime while New Zealand does and these offences comprise nearly half of all violent crime in that country (NZ MoJ). And there are problems with population density the US has a much lower population density overall than in European countries although urban areas can e similar.

But let us do a bit of a broad overview.

Police Recorded Rape Cases per 100,000 Population

US – 28.6

England and Wales -27.7

France 16.2

Germany 8.9

Cases of Robbery per 100,000 Population

US – 133

England and Wales -137

France – 181

Germany – 60

Police Recorded Cases burglary 100,000 population

US – 715

England and Wales - 986

France – 513

Germany - 456

Police Recorded Vehicle Theft Cases per 100,000

US – 258

England and Wales - 215

France – 333

Germany – 106

Number of prisoners per 100,000

US – 716

England and Wales – 148

France – 101

Germany – 80

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It seems to me that the fear and intimidation based ideas prevalent in the US (largest number of privately owned guns, large prison population) isn’t really working very well.

It hasn’t reduced general crime in any significant way but has led to much larger numbers of gun related crimes compared with others and all the problems associated with high prison populations


Homicides by any method per 100.000

US - 2011: 5.1

Canada : 1.6

England and Wales – 0.92

France : 1.2

Germany 0.8

Luxembourg 0.8

Switzerland 0.57

 

Irm

Another silly slogan another moronic meme

Guns stop rape

OK Irm what actual figures have you got for backing this up.

To repeat the figures above

Police Recorded Rape Cases per 100,000 Population

US – 28.6

England and Wales -27.7

France 16.2

Germany 8.9

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Homicides by any method per 100.000

US - 2011: 5.1

England and Wales – 0.92

France : 1.2

Germany 0.8

 

OH for fuck sake EVEN more stupid slogans

Can any of you people actually put up anything of actual substance?

Is this honestly the level at which you think?

Are you honestly saying you think this is a wonderful argument?

Why?

 

Of course the gun isn’t going to prevent a rape.

If a man is intent on raping a woman and he’s bigger and taller he’ll likely overpower her.

However there have been countless attempted rapes, and in most instances in which the female escaped, it’s because she screamed and the assailant ran away.

A whistle or a loud voice is likely to be more effective

 

Well hey, keep a nation negated away from firearms like some you folks wants and maybe a gun won't prevent a rape, but train and educate a women with the gun and I think you'll find the statistics favor the woman. It's just too bad social politics have misled so many people into thinking the way the media and government want you to think I mean honestly some of you are so piss weak you'll succomb to any submission if someone else might get upset and then you weasel your way into a justification feeling that your own worth is better and the best for everybody out there.

 

MeAgain

In the UK there is a national radio (radio 4) entertainment programme that explains statistics

BBC Radio 4 - More or Less

BBC Radio 4 - More or Less: Behind the Stats - Downloads

Try it out someday it’s fun.

 

I'm still claiming my right to protect myself, and my family, from bear attacks.

Other than that all I read here is, "Blah, blah, blah ...".

Why would I care about insignificant opinions?

Honestly, I'm going to avail myself of legal means to do whatever I wish to do.

 

Here's the difference.

You are talking about spotting bears while I was speaking of being attacked by bears.

See? There's a difference.

 

Delete scene from Mean Girls

The Plastics are sitting at their table in the dining hall and A says

‘Oh like all I hear is "Blah, blah, blah ..." because like everyone’s opinions but mine are like soooooo insignificant….’

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Delete scene from Grizzly A-dams

So the drug crazed, drunken bear with a brain tumor charges A from across the room with the intention of kill A’s partner and raping A’s puppy….

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Come on A have you got absolutely nothing to counter the criticisms of you views

 

Dude, I've told you that your opinions are insignificant.

Believe it and find something else to do.

 

A

LOL - Why should I do something else when I’m doing so well showing up that people like you have nothing of substance to say let alone contribute?

I mean whose views are more insignificant the ones that stand up and can be defended from criticism or ones like yours that can’t be and so when they are challenged all you can do is get huffy and refuse to talk about them?

Anyway if you haven't got anything of significance to add to the debate can you please go away

 

I do think people living in rural areas should be able to own firearms for hunting, and defending against wildlife - although I think wildlife attacks are pretty rare, generally if you give bears and other large predators a wide berth they'll leave you alone too. And the US doesnt have many large predators anyways. (And bears arent predators anyways )But I digress.

But what of people who live in congested areas and their right to not be gunned down by a mass murdering psychopath?

That's the crux. Surely the US can find some balance?