Another Shooting

When something like this happens the mind set of the "good guy with a gun" is that he is the only good guy. Everyone else with or without a gun is part of the problem. This means they will shoot at everyone. If they are running away the good guy sees them as a threat and will hit them. If they are moving towered him in a odd way he will think he is pulling a gun and shoot. If he sees a gun he will shoot.

They have a inflated ego on how they will judge this. The reason they have a gun is a fear and distrust of everyone else. Unless they personally walked into Walmart with them that person is getting shot at.

 

The good guy with a gun argument is super dumb. Just an argument put forth by a bunch of Billy Badasses who think they're Rambo.

Texas allows concealed and open carry and this happened inside a freaking gun retailer

 

To be clear: i wasn't serious there. It's obviously a bogus solution

 

People may say they own a gun to protect themselves and their families, but more often than not they just think it makes them a man to own a gun.

 

Leaders convert problems into challenges/opportunities for growth, and challenges often bring out the best within people. There were brave people then with character who were ready to face the baton and bullet for their ideals, and who became famous legends emulated by many across the globe.

 

I agree 1000%

 

How do you change US culture? I just don't see the revulsion here that is apparent in other countries when these things happen. After the Christchurch mosque shootings occurred there was a near immediate response from both the New Zealand government and the public. People began turning in their weapons. The auction site Trade Me banned the sail of military style weapons. The shootings happened on March 15th, legislation to ban semiautomatic weapons was introduced on April 1, and it became law two weeks later. It took only a month to do something.

 

Yeah I dont think the US will ever do anything. If nothing changed after the shocking number of victims in the Las Vegas shooting, and nothing changed after survivors of Parkland organized massive youth protests, then nothing is going to change. This is our culture and we're just going to have to live with it, I guess. There's too much money to be made in arm sales, too much power behind the gun lobby for anything to change.

 

But I hope the every day citizens who support the gun lobby's resistance to change understand this is their culture too. Their chances of getting shot while going about their daily lives are just the same as the rest of us.

 

The Texas massacre bears that out. Surely every would be mass shooter knows every Texan is armed and dangerous, but it didn't seem to slow this one down. 650 shot in 612 days this year. We're outdoing our own Guinness world record for gun violence. No other country has anything comparable. If Muslims had done these things, I suspect the reactions would be different.

 

I guess it was Sandy Hook that did it for me. Twenty something killed, mostly little kids, and nothing changed. Now it's a distant memory for most of us. If that had happened in any other free country there would have been outrage if nothing had been done.

 

because we in the U.S. don't trust our government to protect us from itself.

 

Yea.

They were saying that on CNN this morning and Beto O'Rourke blew it off and said something like "I don't want to confuse people by asking them to comprehend the difference between one type of person doing this and another type of person doing it." He sounded really smart. I think he's a smart guy, but it's off topic.

I agree. I think too that if it were not lower class citizens we'd see a different side of things.

I think it's absolutely horrific. It looks like these guys are targeting the Hispanic population.

 

It's because the USA is rotten. We're completely immature and think we're better than everyone else. We set a bad example for the entire world, and unfortunately much of the world is so starry-eyed over America that they try to emulate us. Fortunately most don't...I hope. Because we're nothing but a bunch of sex-obsessed, self-obsessed, hyper competitive freaking tossers. Hardly anyone in this country uses their goddamn brains, and it gets so that you just assume that everyone is a moron. We're a nation of goddamn morons, and no one should ever try to be like us.

 

Here there is a great case study of leadership in action, both official and unofficial, which can provide a solution of sorts to the issue.

Jacinda Ardern is one of the great world leaders at present and worthy of emulation by other national leaders.

 

Patrick Crusius, 21, a passionate trump supporter and white supremacist who reference several presidential quotes in his manifesto

 

if there was a time when things would have changed it was after Sandy Hook.

I heard a security expert say that both Isis fighters, and white supremacists have one trait in common. They are all sociopaths.

 

We don't even trust our neighbors. How are we going to trust the government? New Zealand doesn't exactly have that problem. Give the government all your guns...sure...

 

Connor Betts, 24, Elizabeth Warren supporter who wanted to usher in socialism.