Is Nationalism A Good Thing?

Forty years of extensive studies concluded the republican party organizes along the same lines as a flock of chickens, and that working memory is the only reliable criteria for assessing anyone's career potential. One in five Americans insists the sun revolves around the earth, that voting for whoever advertises the most is their patriotic duty, and that the corporations and government they call evil lie to them for their own protection. If chickens bragging bothers you, I suggest you take it up with them, they love to argue. Its a matter of national pride in the US that you never back down from the stupidest arguments imaginable.

 

I knew what you meant, I was just being difficult (one of your favorite games ). But yes-- one could argue that the philosophy of nationalism, like that of socialism, is not inherently evil. My response to the thread, as you probably know, was a response to the common outcomes of nationalism, not the philosophy on its own.

I have always thought that being proud of one's country was a bit silly. An accident of your birth is hardly something to be proud of. So, by definition, nationalism might not be evil, but I would argue that it is largely misguided.

 

I just find it silly when Americans boast to other Americans that they are Americans.

 

I think unless one has served the country in some official capacity flying the flag seems a little... hollow.

 

Nationalism and religion are probably about equal in terms the untold millions that have been killed as a result...far exceeding other instigating causes.

 

Yes far more serious than communism.

 

no, what bothers me, is retarded alcohaulic fascists, blaming "the other" when their lack of consideration turns around and bites them on the ass.

(and then harassing everyone who refuses to kiss theirs, up to and sometimes including the commission of genocide)

and i really don't care where you came up with your numbers.

we still create tyranny by hating consideration, whatever chickens, dogs, or republicans do, or anything else.
we still can't avoid causing harm by hating logic, creating ignorance by hating honesty,
nor sucking all the joy out of life by hating imagination.

if the next person or the next hundred persons, beat themselves over the head,
how is that a reason i should have to?

somehow if there is a point you were trying to make, i seem to be not finding it.

(and no, its not about bothering ME, its about the world YOU still have to live in, along with all the rest of us, and how WE together statistically, make it so)

 

You have to be smarter than a chicken, there really is no choice, and these chickens thrive on everybody hating them.

 

yes. so? then why give them air by even mentioning or bringing them up?

also isn't that an argument AGAINST nationalism?
so how does that contest the point that its not a good thing?

or is intended to support the point that its not?
again your point is still eluding me.

 

Again, you have to be smarter than a chicken, and chickens never listen to themselves, much less each other.

 

again what is your point?

intelligence is the rate at which you have the capacity to integrate new data.
this is not something you choose.

what you choose is whether or not and how logically to do so.
along with the other peramiters such as consideration, honesty,
and permitting yourself to enjoy the imagination that flows through you,
by creating and exploring.

there is no nation. there is only the statistical consensus of our priorities and perspectives.
this however is a real thing, which ignored, which not approached logically, or if with the assumption we either control or have no influence over,
can and does, turn around and bite us on the ass.

 

It’s funny, the term “Lao Wai” (foreigner) is actually used second to “Wai Guo Ren” (person from outside of China/Person that isn’t Chinese).

For now on all foreigners in Toronto are non-Canadians.

...can’t wait to go home and use my newly acquired Chinese lol.

 

I'm Slightly Confused Here....(no surprises here folks)....But Aren't You Supposed To Be Teaching

The Chinese "English"...???....Seems To Me.....They Are In Fact Teaching You "Chinese".....



Cheers Glen.

 

pretty sure that's something that kind of goes both ways and kind of has to.

 

I am still reading all the interesting debate and posts here, so thank you for posting.
Through the poll, at least now I know that the vast majority here believe that Nationalism is a bad thing.

My view hasn’t changed at all that in the right context Nationalism is a good thing.
I haven’t got time to fully explain that but I hope you get my drift.

 

Intelligence has to do with the lowest possible energy state of the complete system, with fMRI studies indicating that intelligent people actually think less, simply going from A to B to C. In contrast, chickens debate semantics nonstop and tend to be grammar Nazis. It simply doesn't matter if you have 180 IQ if all you use it for is specious arguments. Nor is IQ fixed as most have been taught, but varies over the lifetime of the individual and is strongly correlated to how much sleep, exercise, and healthy food you get. Even air pollution has turned out to have a major impact on IQ, meaning anyone could simply take a bus out of the city and raise their IQ.

The point is chickens don't think, they are reactionary, and the issue is how to encourage people to stop acting like reactionary chickens. You don't encourage the Three Stooges to stop fighting by telling them they have bad manners, or insisting everybody must be polite to each other. These are chickens, who organize in mindless lynch mobs and elect people like Hitler. Either you comprehend memory-centric systems logics or you are out of your depth.

 

Cut the crap, please. It's not a time issue.
Besides, and worthy to emphasize, so you also agree it easily becomes a bad thing in many other contexts

 

With all due respect.
I have far better things to do with my very valuable time than to try and educate you about Nationalism.
Except to say.
I am for BREXIT.
Why?
Because I want the United Kingdom to be a truly great Nationalist country with our own total laws and governance.
This instead of being a small cog in the Superstate the EU is trying to create being ruled by the likes of Junkier and Barnier and the rest.
Con Men the whole lot of them.
Again with respect.
I have nothing further to add, except please don't give me any more of your crap.

Cheers.

 

Britain to me is similar to Japan, an island nation that has adopted much of the culture from the nearby mainland, but has only survived by being distinctly more western. What Britain requires is modernization that suits it distinctive culture, and that is something only the people can decide, and have proven quite capable of doing with knives and pitchforks if necessary!